Another Ideal Org Failing Miserably

[Karen#1]

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The latest news from another “ideal org” — this time in Auckland.


This is the ONLY scientology outpost in the entire country and is one of the oldest scientology organizations on earth.


What passes for “accomplishments” in these orgs is pretty remarkable.


Word on the street is that not only are the “ideal” orgs not paying their staff, they are also not able to pay their bills. Utilities. Copy machine. Paper supplies.


Here we see what this ideal org is so pumped about. They got one guy to complete a “lecture course” that consists of basic lectures on Dianetics.~~~READ MORE

Another Ideal Org Failing Miserably

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[Karen#1]

Report on Nashville just in.
Nashville, Tennessee.

There were two cars in the parking lot. Otherwise, dark and dead.
Locals and others scammed for this "Ideal Org."

No lights on.

 

[Chuck J.]

We are open! Just bring a sweater, we don't have heat.

 

[Enthetan]

A lady I know told me the history of NY org. Their most successful period was when they were renting space in the early 1970's in the Martineque, which at the time was a welfare hotel which housed homeless.

 

[onceuponatime]

Auckland has always been tiny, under 10 staff from what I recall. I think when they went Ideal they were able to cram some ok number of staff into Auckland, but I wonder how its doing now. I'm sure they've lost a ton of staff.

Same with Nashville, I remember hearing how they had about 5 staff. I never understood the cults obsession with Nashville or how it went Ideal so fast. I guess it has some local celebs that were able to drive the fundraising? Or they just did it with IAS money (to appease some celebs or something?).

I'd really love to see an updated number of staff per org, but we won't ever get one of course.

 

[The_Fixer]

Auckland when it was in Queen St, the city, was a fairly busy place back in the late 70s when I was in there.

Moved since then (don't know how many times) and became an Idle Morgue with only a handful of members left.

I guess it wasn't surprising it's falling flat on its face. I wonder if Davey is doing his best Donald Duck impersonations right now?

 

[UK-86]

It's huge!
How can they keep a building this big going?



Heaps of security and close to Auckland Uni buildings but not much foot traffic.



Wonder how they feel about this on the side of their building.

 

[marra]

I've often wondered how orgs can display "All Welcome" signs when that is patently untrue. I would love to know if this is a violation of advertising laws.

 

[The_Fixer]

Should turn all the rooms into bedrooms and rent them out to university students.
Given how dopey so many students are these days, I'm willing to bet they'd find plenty of prospects in there somewhere....

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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A lady I know told me the history of NY org. Their most successful period was when they were renting space in the early 1970's in the Martineque, which at the time was a welfare hotel which housed the homeless.

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After the OT levels didn't work and Scientologists began blowing in record numbers,
NY org had to slam heavy ethics in to stop the mass exodus, so they became
a warfare hotel which harassed the hapless.

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[Enthetan]

Same with Nashville, I remember hearing how they had about 5 staff. I never understood the cults obsession with Nashville or how it went Ideal so fast. I guess it has some local celebs that were able to drive the fundraising? Or they just did it with IAS money (to appease some celebs or something?).

Scientology has always been obsessed with getting "celebrities" in, and Nashville has some musicians living around there.

There's also Vanderbilt University , and Scientology always tried to grab naive college kids.

Obviously, they are not currently successful with either public.

 

[Lee #28]

A lady I know told me the history of NY org. Their most successful period was when they were renting space in the early 1970's in the Martineque, which at the time was a welfare hotel which housed homeless.

Back in the 1990.....when I was still in....my OT 7 Landlord of the group house I lived in told me that back in the 70s he was in charge of getting food for ...I believe, the NY Org.

Anyway....I don't recall if he said "in charge" of food...or what, but what he said was that he would go out and get plenty of vegetables and fruits that had been thrown out as garbage....( too old to sell ).....from behind markets and grocery stores....and bring it all back. He said they all ate very well.


And just a comment on some above statements. How could an ORG have 5 or 10 staff? That sounds more like Mission Size to me.

 

[onceuponatime]

Scientology has always been obsessed with getting "celebrities" in, and Nashville has some musicians living around there.

There's also Vanderbilt University , and Scientology always tried to grab naive college kids.

Obviously, they are not currently successful with either public.

It was CC Nashville at one point right? I think the CC network is gone now, another sign of how much Scientology is expanding.

 

[onceuponatime]

Back in the 1990.....when I was still in....my OT 7 Landlord of the group house I lived in told me that back in the 70s he was in charge of getting food for ...I believe, the NY Org.

Anyway....I don't recall if he said "in charge" of food...or what, but what he said was that he would go out and get plenty of vegetables and fruits that had been thrown out as garbage....( too old to sell ).....from behind markets and grocery stores....and bring it all back. He said they all ate very well.


And just a comment on some above statements. How could an ORG have 5 or 10 staff? That sounds more like Mission Size to me.

You'd be surprised how many orgs had/have 5-10 staff. There was a massive recruitment push over the last many years, with the ideal org program, GAT II, etc. So I'm sure some orgs got up to an okay number of staff. But now those staff members have been evaporating and they can't recruit anyone.

 

[Enthetan]

You'd be surprised how many orgs had/have 5-10 staff. There was a massive recruitment push over the last many years, with the ideal org program, GAT II, etc. So I'm sure some orgs got up to an okay number of staff. But now those staff members have been evaporating and they can't recruit anyone.

If the tech worked, then they would have had no problem.

If management had been even a little less insane, and staff got training and auditing for free, likewise no problem.

You could have had couple, with one working and the other being on staff, getting training and auditing after hours. Then, after the staff contract expired, switching roles. It would have been doable. But Management made things impossible with demanded hours.

 

[Xenu Xenu Xenu]

If the tech worked, then they would have had no problem.

If management had been even a little less insane, and staff got training and auditing for free, likewise no problem.

You could have had couple, with one working and the other being on staff, getting training and auditing after hours. Then, after the staff contract expired, switching roles. It would have been doable. But Management made things impossible with demanded hours.

Let me see if I got this right. If the Scientology tech worked there would be no problem.

If the tech worked then management would be less insane because the tech would have handled their case.

If the staff got trained on the tech for free, there would be no problem because the tech works.

If the staff got audited for free or not for free (preferable), there would be no problem because the tech works.

After a lot of why finding, I cognited and realized that this all depends on the tech working. Suddenly, I blew a lot of mass and my flow lines started becoming uncluttered and I regained my native power that I as a thetan always had. Thanks Ron for your selfless work in freeing all beings in this sector of the universe. How can I ever repay you, apart from joining the Sea Org and giving all my money and offspring to your cause, that is?

 

[Glenda]

It's huge!
How can they keep a building this big going?
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Heaps of security and close to Auckland Uni buildings but not much foot traffic.

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Wonder how they feel about this on the side of their building.
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Kia Ora,
I thought you might find this old photo interesting. This 1929 photo shows the plaque at the opening of the building. The Trinity College is listed with Heritage New Zealand and has some protection because of this.




Photo credits/info:

Title: "OPENING OF TRINITY COLLEGE, AUCKLAND, THE NEW THEOLOGICAL TRAINING CENTRE OF THE METHODIST CHURCH OF NEW ZEALAND."

Taken from the supplement to the Auckland Weekly News 7 March 1929 p041

Auckland Libraries Heritage Collections AWNS-19290307-41-1

 

[Chuck J.]

It was CC Nashville at one point right? I think the CC network is gone now, another sign of how much Scientology is expanding.

The reductio ad absurdum is all tech "delivery" suspended or eliminated and a Real Estate Holding Company at the top. The current staff of orgs are building caretakers. That's basically what they have now, but I think we'll see it go much more in this direction.

 

[UK-86]

It is a lovely building, shame they couldn't have been a bit more subtle with the security cameras. You'd think it belonged to a government spy agency!

On the upside it is in good condition and looks well looked after. NZ Tax exempt 'charity' dollars I guess!

I found the 'In God we trust' wording of the plaque funny seeing how Hubbard defined himself as the Anti-Christ in the old OT8 materials and his Occult background.

 

[Glenda]

It is a lovely building, shame they couldn't have been a bit more subtle with the security cameras. You'd think it belonged to a government spy agency!

On the upside it is in good condition and looks well looked after. NZ Tax exempt 'charity' dollars I guess!

I found the 'In God we trust' wording of the plaque funny seeing how Hubbard defined himself as the Anti-Christ in the old OT8 materials and his Occult background.

lol. Hey it is NOT an intelligence gathering organisation. It does NOT gather intel files on politicians, etc., etc. No, no, no. It is merely a lovely spiritual church thing (with the correct sanctioning from government agencies, just lovely) that is involved with helping people and the community (for the public good ya know). The unsubtle security cameras are simply there to protect the lovely building - not unlike a friend of mine who has a camera on her drive-way to capture people if they try to steal her son's rugby boots from the back-porch.

The "In God we trust" thing is possibly taking things a bit too far into the realm of hypocrisy. But hey scn is skilled at high-level hypocrisy so ya gotta admit it is in keeping with the overall patterns of the entity. Kind of fits in the overall warped chaotic mess that is entwined throughout the entire subject of scn.

One other thing, it is mostly NOT NZ charity status tax exempt dollars holding it all together. There is a significant amount of money from off-shore involved. Where are the damn forensic accountants when you need them! Maybe no laws were broken but dodgy shit is going down where that building is concerned. Now if you will excuse me, I got to go lock my rubbish bin.