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  1. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    L'Homme Ideal, is that like an ubermensch? ;-)
  2. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    Chuck J. Riddick's post looked to me like bait, an invitation to provide him with something to attack. So I ignored it. As for our current situation, it looks to me like we are in the middle between two powers, the Confederation and the Galactics, with neither taking control of this planet...
  3. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    Filbert mentions something he got from Hubbard (but Hubbard probably lifted it from someone else) which is a game position scale. Bottom up: broken piece, piece, asst player, player, game maker, game destroyer, etc. Part of that scale is an engineering level. Engineers run universes, and also...
  4. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    Yes yes, both poles are one and you light up. :) Max's gunas ran very deep on me when he ran it on me. Yes, I got the gunas run by Max. I feel all special, lol lol. ;-) (joking) My primes via the gunas were the power of thetans to dominate, which Hubbard noticed as a type of serfac. Part of why...
  5. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    My personal view of Zivo's tech: PEAT resolves the build up of charge, aka energy ridges, which are trapped in the body field (aura). Aspectika removes the goals inherent in small 'thought' or idea size entities. Max: Max was my neighbor and a close friend. We were at each other's houses a lot...
  6. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    Zivorad (Zivo) had a Bachelor's degree in psychology, passed through scientology to learn it, and also was a member of an east European branch of Hermetic brotherhood derived from the Golden Dawn and O.T.O. He was also well versed in Hindu techniques. I helped him, as his assistant, to teach a...
  7. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    Thank you. I have always expressed myself very strongly, expressing inner certainty. I mean like from 3 or 4 years old. lol. I'll try to communicate a little less forcefully. Ed
  8. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    Not mad at you, Mimsey. A bit put off by a few other people. Ed
  9. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    Your belief is inaccurate, Bill. Ed
  10. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    I was hoping to make new friends on here, and have interesting post-scientology discussions of spiritual techniques. What I find are rude trolls acting as gatekeepers for their beliefs (yes disbelief is a type of belief). You're nice, Veda, but some others are complete abusers. I believe in...
  11. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    ??????????? You haven't seen my list of entities. And I certainly am not going to show it to you now. So many negative people on here. :) Ed
  12. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    Mims, The Younger Dryas event was not experienced by very many thetans. Most of us came here much more recently. So you'll probably have to audit 10s of thousands of people to find one who experienced it. Forget them. If you want to find it, audit the G.E.. That will link you to the human...
  13. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    Quite a bit to address there, Veda. :) Hubbard was an initiate, a member of Crowley's organization the O.T.O. Therefore he knew about thoughtforms. I don't usually use that word because it's 12 letters long and 'entity' is quicker to type, lol. :) "deliberately or inadvertently" is correct. I...
  14. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    Mims, Yes I know what a composite is. Humans are composites. Thetans have composite case. I was referencing Filbert who said something to the effect that AT MINIMUM an entity is one thought plus one picture. But there are much more complex ones, with trillions of thoughts and pictures held in...
  15. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    Mims, A thetan is indeed a creator of energy; thetans create their own energy fields. But I wrote about entities, not thetans as depending on an energy field. As for Hubbard, to my knowledge he never figured out exactly what an entity is. Filbert came close by stating it was at minimum a thought...
  16. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    Yes I am familiar with Filbert's classes of awareness. I am not referring to that however. I am pointing more toward the construction of various spirits. :) Ed
  17. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    You troll me and I am being pissy? You have no idea who I am and what my past training is. Ideas? Kindly quit invalidating. I have not reported this to the moderators, but I respect the rules of this forum, as you do not. You violated Nos. 1 and 8. Go bother someone else.
  18. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    I have a background in both scientology and magick. All I have to do is LOOK at a BT, its size and composition, to see what it is. It's a mid-sized entity which was once a thetan, and its connection to divinity is lost. That can happen to a thetan. That connection is the difference between a...
  19. Ed8

    New OT levels vs Original OT levels

    Ah yes, back when they were actually producing operating thetans. John was the largest I saw, but he wasn't the only one. I can see the invisible world: ghosts, entities, and divine spirits. John filled the front room at ASHO with clarity, aka the 'clear light' Buddhists mention...
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