Read Scientology's shrill demand that The Times remove its undercover investigation

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[Graeme Wilson (inset) responds to The Times in a big way!]

Last Thursday, the Times of London published the results of an undercover investigation by one of its reporters, Tom Ball, who had spent enough time at the Church of Scientology’s Edinburgh “org” to confirm that it was, indeed, recruiting children from 13 to 16 to work as staff members, some of whom were away from their parents in East Grinstead, England and other distant locations.
This was some terrific reporting by Ball, and we figured that the church would, as is their usual custom, respond with attacks on him rather than addressing the problems brought up in his reporting.
That’s what is spelled out in Scientology’s playbook by founder L. Ron Hubbard about how to deal with nosy reporters. It’s by smearing that reporter and accusing them of crimes, so that no one will trust what they say.
That’s Scientology’s well-worn strategy — attack the reporter and his methods — but it’s really something to see this full letter to The Times from Scientology’s UK public relations man, Graeme Wilson.
We can’t wait to hear what is your favorite part!
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OSA is whining about an alleged vandalism incident which allegedly occured after the publication and blaming it on the Times of London.

This a classic post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy because they have not even remotely established a causal connection.
 
OSA is whining about an alleged vandalism incident which allegedly occured after the publication and blaming it on the Times of London.

This a classic post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy because they have not even remotely established a causal connection.
 
After all these years I still hate getting stuck with an MU - Study tech prevails:


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The Church should be careful what it wishes for when it attempts to draw parallels between young people helping out in Christian, Jewish and Muslim services and the use they themselves make of children in their organisation.

Unlike those other religions, Scientology does not recognise childhood at all as a developmental stage, because Hubbard didn't; it sees children purely as thetans in small bodies, and makes no distinction between what is expected of them and what is expected of adult Scientologists (with the possible exception of purely physical tasks).

Young people are asked to hold executive positions in the Church (because they have fewer overts in their lives so far than older Scnists have); I was even told of a case where a 14 year old boy served as the Ethics Officer at St Hill. The upshot is that they are never really allowed to be children and teenagers at all.

Sheila (RIP) has told how at the age of 16, and with no prior training, she was put in charge of a Sea Org nursery and expected to look after 30 children on her own, many as young as toddlers.

That is not something that would go down well if it ever saw the light of day.
 
I'm sure this has already been shared but I just noticed this on FB.

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Attempting to repair their image. Expounding on basic things all people can agree with.
 
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The Church should be careful what it wishes for when it attempts to draw parallels between young people helping out in Christian, Jewish and Muslim services and the use they themselves make of children in their organisation.

Unlike those other religions, Scientology does not recognise childhood at all as a developmental stage, because Hubbard didn't; it sees children purely as thetans in small bodies, and makes no distinction between what is expected of them and what is expected of adult Scientologists (with the possible exception of purely physical tasks).

Young people are asked to hold executive positions in the Church (because they have fewer overts in their lives so far than older Scnists have); I was even told of a case where a 14 year old boy served as the Ethics Officer at St Hill. The upshot is that they are never really allowed to be children and teenagers at all.

Sheila (RIP) has told how at the age of 16, and with no prior training, she was put in charge of a Sea Org nursery and expected to look after 30 children on her own, many as young as toddlers.

That is not something that would go down well if it ever saw the light of day.

Anti video. Children ripping the skirt off some cognizant dissonance.


Every day, I rode the Manor bus to ASHO for OT preps. It was heartbreak to see young 20 yr old moms given a cherished 30 mins to be with toddlers out on the lawn.

My ex boyfriend used to drive the cadet org bus in 1982. Somebody was always passing along some illness. He and his wife, Iris, raised 4 kids while living as Sea Org. The father of the first two, died while in the navy, so they weren't a $ liablity when asked to leave because children distract you from Prime purpose.
 
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