Whatever happened to Todd Dempsey?

[I M Dex]

Todd was NY org staff when I was there, and we were good friends for awhile. I befriended him after he'd finished his staff contract, he showed up back in the org one day, looking sad, his wife had left him. He was obnoxious at times when demanding people meet quotas for selling books, and we had words once or twice, but he seemed sad and lonely, so I struck up a friendship with him. He was bookstore officer, I don't remember him ever holding any other post. Todd was very opinionated and could be forceful within the scope of his post, not seen as exec or tech material, and didn't seem to be very well engaged or connected with most other staff, but we were good friends. He spouted a lot of Scientology admin-based viewpoints and criticisms, went through a few marriages, had an older daughter and 2 younger kids (2 different mothers). Over time he kind of drifted off. He had his own one-man business, light construction/renovation. He'd be about 70 now. I remember him having been in a relationship (marriage?) with Helen Regnier, ex of Tom Regnier, and then married to a sweet girl, her name eludes me right now, they had 2 children together, one was a boy named Graham or Graeme (sp?), they divorced and she remarried to someone named Howard.

 

[Isaac]

Can you share the list of staff names and years you were in? The New York Org.

 

[I M Dex]

Can you share the list of staff names and years you were in? The New York Org.

I was active as staff or public at the NY org from 1978 to around 1985. As staff, I started out recruited for div 6, recruited a replacement, joined the TTC, became lead HGC auditor. I audited freelance for CCNY (didn't sign a staff contract, accepted an invitation to audit their staff and public for $25/ hour, an actual living wage) from about 1987-1989.
At NY org, some of the names of staff (sadly most of these names are still connected as staff, from what I've been able to find) Gerry and Yvette Metoyer, Jerry and Debbie Indursky, Pete Vilinsky, Ray Baiardi, Rich Goluch, Bruce Campion. Sometimes we shared friendly moments, sometimes cold and quasi-military. Giving sessions and being on the tech side was more my thing, closer to the real me, but also above and exempt from the stupid nasty "command intention" oppressive admin bullshit- sometimes.
At CCNY, Nancy Katz aka Nancy Burton (married to a Victor Burton, I remember he was at Flag for over 18 months "Still getting through OT III, that does happen" according to Nancy) was senior C/S, she was fun, had some personality and chutzpa, and wasn't above asking or taking my advice about C/Sing and programming. I remember Christina Kumi Kimble, sweet, pretty girl at least at the time, black/Japanese dancer/choreographer, I remember bringing my two little boys there with me for something, leaving them on a sofa for a short while, and then getting back to them, finding Kumi sitting in between them reading them a book. I remember Lauren and Graham Halky, nice couple.

 

[pineapple]

I audited freelance for CCNY (didn't sign a staff contract, accepted an invitation to audit their staff and public for $25/ hour, an actual living wage) from about 1987-1989.

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Did they actually pay you $25/hr, or did they try to weasel out of it? ("How about if we pay you in LRH books / let you retread some courses instead?") Ever have any trouble getting paid, e.g. got paid late / less than you were owed, etc.?

 

[I M Dex]

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Did they actually pay you $25/hr, or did they try to weasel out of it? ("How about if we pay you in LRH books / let you retread some courses instead?") Ever have any trouble getting paid, e.g. got paid late / less than you were owed, etc.?

They paid me, every week. No issues. I wasn't under contract, and being me, especially after having been NY org staff, I allowed no authority over me. Just assign me PC's, that's all. Being a celebrity center, it was a softer, friendlier environment, the top execs were women, and were happy to have a "tech man", as they put it, around. I never felt any pressure or enforcement. It was like it wasn't a Scientology organization I was nice, they were nice, and when they asked me in to have a discussion about auditing their staff and public for pay, I made it very clear that I was not going to be told what to do by any "higher authority", and in particular I mentioned the "Senior C/S EUS", who I was not fond of. For a minute, that seemed to be a dealbreaker, but then the senior C/S very demonstrably impressed the ED that they shouldn't let me walk, "senior terminals" be damned. Those were my terms

 

[I M Dex]

A few years earlier, at the NY org, over $1,000 in unpaid auditor bonus money to me had accumulated, and then that weasel of an FBO ("Flag Banking Officer") found some reference that said any pay that the org was unable to pay when due was no longer valid. That was a lot of $ for me to be cheated out of, after several weeks of being assured that the org would catch up. I was less than pleased, and a few months later I'd had enough NY org BS and left staff, didn't complete my contract. Goes both ways.

 

[Enthetan]

Did they actually pay you $25/hr, or did they try to weasel out of it? (

The nice thing about being an uncontracted hourly worker is that if they don't pay you, then you can decline to show up and they won't have an auditor any more.

And they don't seem to be training more, either.

If it were me, I would demand to be paid each day, in cash, for the prior day's work before taking in the current day's PC .

 

[Lee #28]

There was a Non-Sea Org Qual Sec at AOLA for many years, if not for a decade or longer....back in the 80's and early 90's.

Don't know how he managed that.....

Had his own apartment .....car.....and such. So must have been paid regularly...

 

[pineapple]

The nice thing about being an uncontracted hourly worker is that if they don't pay you, then you can decline to show up and they won't have an auditor any more.

And they don't seem to be training more, either.

If it were me, I would demand to be paid each day, in cash, for the prior day's work before taking in the current day's PC .

The reason I brought it up is on the old board phenomanon mentioned she was supposed to be paid $10/hr as an uncontracted auditor, at ASHO I believe, but they reneged on the deal and said they'd let her retread the VIII course for nothing instead. (She stayed.)

I believe something similar happened at the mission where I got started (Honolulu, defunct 30 years ago). The two HGC auditors were supposed to get $10/hr, but at some point the ED (also the C/S) said he couldn't continue to pay them. One of the auditors walked, one stayed.

(I say "I believe" because I was very new at the time and completely ignorant of what went on behind the scenes, and I definitely didn't have the rank to ask questions when people suddenly disappeared.)

 

[Isaac]

The nice thing about being an uncontracted hourly worker is that if they don't pay you, then you can decline to show up and they won't have an auditor any more.

And they don't seem to be training more, either.

If it were me, I would demand to be paid each day, in cash, for the prior day's work before taking in the current day's PC .

Make them pay up front - then debit the account. That’s what they do.

 

[Enthetan]

There was a Non-Sea Org Qual Sec at AOLA for many years, if not for a decade or longer....back in the 80's and early 90's.

Don't know how he managed that.....

Had his own apartment .....car.....and such. So must have been paid regularly...

Around 1979-80 time frame, there was a Flag mission into AOLA. They had a bunch of non-SO auditors and other Tech people, and the mission was to get them to join SO or get out.

I guess the mission was a long term failure as evidently AO couldn't operate for long without them.

 

[I M Dex]

I appreciate all the conversation, by all means let it flow, but if anyone has anything to add in response to my original post about former NY org staff Todd Dempsey, I'd love to hear it.

 

[Cat_Daddy]

I don't know, it is a mystery to me.

 

[vegan3]

well this thread went to hell in a handbasket. helen shows up as either age 95 or deceased. todd (if he's still in new york) shows up as age 73. the fact that zero relatives are in his entry is not a good sign. did you look on facebook?

Search Results for Helen Regnier

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Search Results for Todd Dempsey

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todd dempsey brooklyn new york - Google Search

 

[vegan3]

if this is him, he's in new jersey. Todd Dempsey in Brooklyn, New York | Zabasearch.com | Location, Phone Number, Email.

 

[Jefferyned]

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