Veda
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Remote Viewers Out There? | Ex Scientologist Message Board Redux
Remote Viewers Out There? | Ex Scientologist Message Board Redux
Yes, around 1987, IIRC, Ingo did Avatar.Didn't realize Ingo was behind Avatar. I did some of that in the 90's. Don't remember any gains to speak of. Momentary key-outs maybe. The first course was kinda fun in a very nice place with nice people. The second one was like being at SCN. Horrid all the way around.
Crowley's correspondences between the Hebrew Kabbalistic Tree of Life,
and the eight tri-grams of the Chinese Book of Changes
Hubbard's simplified, and reworked the four components of the Tree of Life: the Kabbalistic Tetragrammaton, the four basic and successive postulations of the/a Life force.
The four fundamental ingredients of existence, so the idea goes.
Which, oddly enough, correspond with the four bi-grams, of the ancient Chinese Book of Changes:
Hubbard's Scientology Axioms are based largely on his mechanistic extrapolation from these four primordial conditions.
Which derive from the two primordial conditions: Yang and Yin, which derive from the great mystery - a nothingness with infinite potential.
We'll probably never know the extent to which Hubbard's "Axioms," and many of his other ideas, were inspired by his late night conversations with self taught chemist and rocket scientist Jack Parsons. No doubt Hubbard was aware of Crowley's "Theorems of Magick," and possibly aware of Nordenholz' Scientologie and its Axioms.
Painting by Patricia WaldygoThe top corresponds with Scientology's Static, the next two, lower, correspond with Scientology's As-isness and Alter-isness, next is a collection that corresponds with Is-ness, and the bottom corresponds with Not-Isness.
Many of Scientology's scales, as well as its The Factors, and even the Scientology symbol of the "S with the double triangle," derive from these earlier sources, notably through the writings of Aleister Crowley.
Some were lured into Scientology by exposure to these things.
While explanations can, sometimes, seem strange, they can also loosen the glue that holds a person to Scientology.
You at Mensa?Yes, around 1987, IIRC, Ingo did Avatar.
Before and after Scientology, Ingo enjoyed exploring other "New Age"-type subjects.
Palmer quickly became just another cult leader.
I had a long talk with Ingo during early 1973 at a hotel in Manhattan, at a Mensa Society conference. I'm not sure if that conversation is mentioned in any of the threads I'm adding.
Once, I attended a conference, held by the Mensa Society, on psychical phenomena and the occult. I was not a member and had no desire to be a member.You at Mensa?
That explains much about your reading and Library obsession.
Don't take that the wrong way, it was not meant to be dismissive of you in any way at all. Just a revelation from my viewpoint.
Staring at rocks and following through on intentions? Looks like Harry Palmer kept changing Avatar tech as the years went on, recycling parts of Hubbard's stuff.I really don't remember much of what avatar was about. staring at rocks and following through on intentions. my sister did the whole program and seemed to love it. haven't heard her mention it since though lol. if i'd known that would be my last paid week off ever, i think i would have done something more exciting!
NOTHING wil make you "clear" (Hubbard's original "clear"). However, when you redefine "clear", as Hubbard and Scientology do, then ANYTHING will make you "clear".well, staring at rocks can clear noise. not gonna make you clear though!
NOTHING wil make you "clear" (Hubbard's original "clear"). However, when you redefine "clear", as Hubbard and Scientology do, then ANYTHING will make you "clear".