The Story of Kirsi and Cult behavior

Karen#1

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In recent days I read with interest on Tony Ortega's blog that Valerie Haney was paid $4500 in a "contract" to never sue, never bring charges against the cult etc etc.
I don't believe for a moment that this was done from a point of benevolence or kindness. It was to legally lock it into a contract.

But earlier in time, Sea org Youngsters have being *DUMPED* and discarded like trash or pieces of furniture here is Kirsi's story.
Other people's horrific RPF stories always impact me.
It might be that I have never quite gotten over the CRUELTY and DOMINATION of my bogus fraudulent and unwarranted RPF. It was hell.
Mark Headley so eloquently expressed it "Another Day in Hell." So I resonate and duplicate other's RPF stories.
I was very happy to meet Kirsi in person. A Finnish girl recruited in Denmark and sent to Flag another 20 year Sea Org member who spent some 8 years in OSA Flag, Office of Special Affairs, Flag from where she was sent to a sadistic RPF for 2+ years. The RPF was assigned only for asking to leave the Sea Org.
Kirsi posted on Marty's blog.
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in front of the group by a senior executive, spouses sent to work in different continents, disconnection in full use, veteran staff who had worked with LRH were separated for years.
During my final stages of routing out of The Sea Org in Clearwater four years ago, I was scraping off the O block exterior walls (home for us RPFers) day in, day out, thinking…. what happened to that dedication. Here I am, routing out after 20 years and on a ‘scrape those walls’- assignment. It was a very odd combination of mixed feelings and confused questions and had no one to talk to – talking to anyone is forbidden in the RPF and when you’re in the RPFs RPF you just have you. Now even the fellow RPFers condemn you – save 2 or 3 who did try to talk to me. But their talk was about changing my mind and staying. Staying wasn’t an option, I needed to understand what is the real reason for sayonara my friends, my group and the once burning purpose. I had seen spiritual rape of fellow staff; humiliation in front of the group by a senior executive, spouses sent to work in different continents, disconnection in full use, veteran staff who had worked with LRH had been routed off or RPFed, and the reasons for my questionning and disagreements went on like this. I had done my share of actions I regret.
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Kirsi told me she was dropped off at Tampa Airport penniless.
After serving 20 years, and knowing she was a Finnish national with NO $$$ (RPF for 2 years is virtually penniless for 60 hour weeks of slave labor ~~ human trafficking) Kirsi was dropped off at Tampa airport without a cent to purchase a meal or drink, leave alone air fare. This was some 12 years ago. But look at the pattern of conduct over the years.
Imagine the GREED of an entitiy sitting with $1 billion in reserves in the IAS account, spitting a staff member out with NOTHING as punishment for asking to leave the group. The Church gives no pension, no 401K, nothing absolutely nothing to veteran staff and gets away with slave labor for cents an hour under the guise of "MINISTERIAL EXEMPTION".
At Tampa Airport, Kirsi reviewed her options.
No money, no food, no ability to purchase an airfare.
She collect called a childhood friend asking she pay the one way ticked back to Scandinavia.
Her friend was stunned.
They had not communicated in YEARS.
Her friend thought this could be an Internet SCAM.
"What was the name of the dog we would run in the park with when we were 7 years old?"
Kirsi gave the correct name of the dog.,
Airfare was paid.
Kirsi flew home.

She has renounced all of Scn and changed her last name and never looked back.


Kirsi (recruited as a teenager from Cophenhagen Org...20 years in the Sea Org Org.)Kirsi.jpg
 
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Wowzer. That is rough!
Scientology is cruel to staff, ex Sea Org, Sea Org and public.

For some reason, this triggered a repressed memory of the horror story of one of my very good friends who had left the Sea Orgl.
He/She was an Oat Tea.
He/She is still in and is drinking the koolaid. He/she does not know I am out. We talk a few times a year and whenever he/she talks about Scientology, I wax enthusiasm :cool:

He/ She has many friends and family who are sorta kinda out and hiding utr. He/she still communicates with Declared SP family members who have been Declared SP's. The Church does not know it. They agree to not discuss Scientology.

He/she told me they can trick the cans and the justification is that someday he/she hopes to get the SP's back into Scientology. It will be a cold day on Teegeack before that happens. I talk to the family member declared SP all the time. Ain't no way she/he will go back. They went all the way down the rabbit hole.

He /She left the Sea Org and left LA. He/She went to a smaller Org to "help" clear the planet as is expected by the regime.
There, He/She was pressured into donating $100,000 to the Ideal Org as part of the amends for leaving the Sea Org. Humanitarians.
Then, he/she was regged for another $100,000 to put on account for training. The money came out of inheritance trust account set up for "education" he/she got from his/her SP Declared relative he/she still talks too behind the church's back.

Fast forward a decade.

He /she lost home to foreclosure.
Did not pay a $100,000 hospital bill due to being broke and bragged about how they did it.
Divorced.
Confused.
A mess.

My goal by sharing these horror stories is to help lurkers from even trying Scientology.
Scientology uses a system of bait and switch. There will be some lure on a hook that Scientology will get you in with and that hook sets deeply and firmly for many years. If you ever get off the hook, you will be damaged and so will your family.
 
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Karen#1

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Wowzer. That is rough!
Scientology is cruel to staff, ex Sea Org, Sea Org and public.

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He /She left the Sea Org and left LA. He/She went to a smaller Org to "help" clear the planet as is expected by the regime.
There, He/She was pressured into donating $100,000 to the Ideal Org as part of the amends for leaving the Sea Org. Humanitarians.
Then, he/she was regged for another $100,000 to put on account for training. The money came out of inheritance trust account set up for "education" he/she got from her SP Declared relative he/she still talks too behind the church's back.


Fast forward a decade.

He /she lost home to foreclosure.
Did not pay a $100,000 hospital bill due to being broke and bragged about how they did it.
Divorced.
Confused.

A mess.

My goal by sharing these horror stories is to help lurkers from even trying Scientology.
Scientology uses a system of bait and switch. There will be some lure on a hook that Scientology will get you in with and that hook sets deeply and firmly for many years. If you ever get off the hook, you will be damaged and so will your family.
There was a French documentary with the title "Jusqu'a Rien Plus" It means UNTIL NOTHING LEFT. It was a scathing documentary of Scientology Inc's efforts to drain every last dime of your money.

The vulture culture is to get all your Cash. It is the Primary objective of the cult.
 

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There was a French documentary with the title "Jusqu'a Rien Plus" It means UNTIL NOTHING LEFT. It was a scathing documentary of Scientology Inc's efforts to drain every last dime of your money.

The vulture culture is to get all your Cash. It is the Primary objective of the cult.
I agree. I also think that perhaps Scientology is allowed in the US because is a mind control experiment for the US Government. How to control the masses. Pit each other against each other using slogans pitching freedom, save the planet etc.

The covert part of the government watches how Scientologists become robots, handing over their money, working for nothing, wasting and destroying their lives for absolutley nothing.

So they can earn how to use mind control trickery and deception via propaganda to get people to do what is in the best interest of the politician. Cuz the politicians are using Scientology trickery tactics today as we speak
 

Karen#1

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Very soon after my very public departure from Scientology 5 Ex Scientologists came forward to let me know that my son Alexander Jentzsch had had full blown sexual intercourse at the Flag Land Base in the Sea Organization with a 40 year old.

Alexander was 12 years old. His father was imprisoned at INT base. I was in Los Angeles.

Kirsi was one of those in touch with me ~~~


I was a member of the Sea Organization from August 1989 till August 2007. It was when I worked in the Office of Special Affairs Flag Land Base, that I learned about the rape of Alexander Jentzsch, then a 12 or 13 years son of Karen De La Carriere and Heber Jentzsch.

I started working in OSA in January 1997 and it was during that year when I learned about the rape through my then co-worker Annie Mora, who had been assigned to keep an eye on Alexander from the point of time he was received at the Flag Land Base.


The rape incident involved a female FSO Dept 5 staff Marie Warren, seducing Alex to have sex with her in one of the crew berthing apartments. Once this incident became known by Annie Mora she was executing the immediate handling which included making sure the knowledge of the rape isn´t spreading not only inside the church but to the outside.

It would have been devastating to the image of the church to have this crime become general knowledge. Another action was to transfer Alexander and Marie out of Florida to California to help cover it up from the Authorities. Needless to say Alexander´s rape was a huge flap and would be the kind of incident OSA staff would automatically deal with, hence my knowledge of it.

Kirsi
 
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Very soon after my very public departure from Scientology 5 Ex Scientologists came forward to let me know that my son Alexander Jentzsch had had full blown sexual intercourse at the Flag Land Base in the Sea Organization with a 40 year old.

Alexander was 12 years old. His father was imprisoned at INT base. I was in Los Angeles.

Kirsi was one of those in touch with me ~~~


I was a member of the Sea Organization from August 1989 till August 2007. It was when I worked in the Office of Special Affairs Flag Land Base, that I learned about the rape of Alexander Jentzsch, then a 12 or 13 years son of Karen De La Carriere and Heber Jentzsch.

I started working in OSA in January 1997 and it was during that year when I learned about the rape through my then co-worker Annie Mora, who had been assigned to keep an eye on Alexander from the point of time he was received at the Flag Land Base.


The rape incident involved a female FSO Dept 5 staff Marie Warren, seducing Alex to have sex with her in one of the crew berthing apartments. Once this incident became known by Annie Mora she was executing the immediate handling which included making sure the knowledge of the rape isn´t spreading not only inside the church but to the outside.

It would have been devastating to the image of the church to have this crime become general knowledge. Another action was to transfer Alexander and Marie out of Florida to California to help cover it up from the Authorities. Needless to say Alexander´s rape was a huge flap and would be the kind of incident OSA staff would automatically deal with, hence my knowledge of it.

Kirsi
That is horrible. I am so sorry Karen. What an horrible organization to allow that type of abuse to go on and on and on.
 

Karen#1

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That is horrible. I am so sorry Karen. What an horrible organization to allow that type of abuse to go on and on and on.
Rapes and Molestations are very covered up within the cult.
As in all cases, no report to Clearwater PD or any Police department in the jurisdiction of the offense.
(I did report it when I found out....years after the fact)
You see sexual misconduct and crimes are smelly and odorous and not good positioning for the high level spiritual level they want
as an image.

Even now they are fiercely protecting rapist Danny Masterson !!!

Funnily enough they try to attack their critics with sexual misdeeds....they are only talking about themselves....

OSA tell the Sea Org members "We will handle it internally"

Donatella Kevenaar was Alexander's "handler" til he died and after death.OSA.Donatella.jpg
 

Karen#1

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Kirsi is back in Finland far removed from her nightmares of RPF and RPFs RPF.
Recently she shared the story of her adoption


Five years ago, 10.10. 2014 I met my friend for the first time, she was at a shelter in southern part of Finland. I had seen a picture of her, knew that she was six years old and she had another name. I renamed her immediately to help forget the rough past. Her date of birth wasn't known, only the year 2008 and I felt it was right to celebrate her birthday on the day she found a home. Previously I'd never owned a dog - actually I don't believe anyone can "own" a dog or any other animal - and I really didn't know how it was going to pan out for us. Well, five years and I can say I've given my best shot to make her life better what it was before. But the real winner is me, for this girl is just so beautiful through and through. She hears that everyday too and I hope she never have to doubt it.
Here's to Foxy!! Happy Birthday

Kirsi.dog.jpg
 
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