That's what Hubbard's editor John Sanborn thought.The Phoenix Lectures were probably the pinnacle of his work.
The problem with this is that is assumes the "tech" is good but the execution failed. That's what many newly-out Scientologists believe.Hubbard tried his best. Perhaps at the beginning he had higher motives. As time went by he lost it. The general theory is not bad and even some of the lower levels processes like Grades and some of the Objectives. He lost it when he started to think to be "the only one" and he didn't build a modern Research and Development department. He lost many great people as time went by: Alan Walters, Mayo, Werner Erhardt, the great american Mission Holders and, when reading your posts, even though I dont know you, I believe you were also one of them. He replaced those great people with the likes of Miscavige, Marty Rathbun, the GO, OSA, I mean people who had no idea what the tech was supposed to be about. From time to time he still had some good insight (part of Nots, part of the Data Series, the Suppressed Person RD, etc) but the technical architecture crumbled. The managers he had on post to manage it were definitely not up to the task since they were not old timers and decided to replace their technical and delivery failures with ethics and justice, like a country that uses policing and harsh measure to quell economic protest. Thus having sent away the very people who could help him, he failed.
Sometimes even if we had good intentions (I still give Hubbard the benefit of the doubt - at least at the beginning), when we dont do the right thing, we fuck up royally. And that is the history or the attempt of Scientology. Hubbard failed and - if there is any truth to reincarnation - when he comes back he should make use of some of the overt and withhold technology he devised. Sometimes when you fuck up, many many people get hurt and that is the sad part of the story. People who attended Scientology were damaged in the same way the shareholders of Enron or the investors in Bernie Madhoff. These last ones were raped financially. People who attended scientology - if they didn't make large use of the "critical websites" - they ended up being raped both spiritually and financially. Yet, we can add that the indicators that something was wrong, particularly after the year 2000 were all over the place.He had the opportunity to make a good self help based religion that gave people a benefit, but instead it is parasitic and toxic.
That shows you who he really was, and certainly not man's best friend.
Mimsey
Are you referring to correspondence course packs, and check sheets? with lists of things to read, clay demos to do, etc.?Is there anywhere I can find work packets? Im looking for the ethics book work sheets and the management series work packet sheets if at all possible? Im Brand new to the forum and this tech post seemed like an appropriate place to ask. Thanks in advance!
Have you seen this?Sometimes even if we had good intentions (I still give Hubbard the benefit of the doubt - at least at the beginning), when we dont do the right thing, we fuck up royally. And that is the history or the attempt of Scientology. Hubbard failed and - if there is any truth to reincarnation - when he comes back he should make use of some of the overt and withhold technology he devised. Sometimes when you fuck up, many many people get hurt and that is the sad part of the story. People who attended Scientology were damaged in the same way the shareholders of Enron or the investors in Bernie Madhoff. These last ones were raped financially. People who attended scientology - if they didn't make large use of the "critical websites" - they ended up being raped both spiritually and financially. Yet, we can add that the indicators that something was wrong, particularly after the year 2000 were all over the place.
Link to the complete August 1938 Skipper letter, from Hubbard to his first wife, written in the wake of the writing of the unpublished manuscript Excalibur.
Hubbard reveals his "real goal."
Thanks! Was interesting! So basically Hubbard had an ambitious goal when he was 26... I mean, who didnt have one?Have you seen this?
Thanks! Was interesting! So basically Hubbard had an ambitious goal when he was 26... I mean, who didnt have one?
Ya I been through narcanon and worked for a church so that's why im trying to get the packets from outside of actual comm with the church that way no one's hounding me for money or signing up for working anywhere, trying to keep dev-t off of my line haha. I wanna implement some of the tech things in my business stats conditions and figured management series might be helpful but if I had the work sheets to do the practicals and written work I think it would be helpful.Are you referring to correspondence course packs, and check sheets? with lists of things to read, clay demos to do, etc.?
Not familiar with the latest rendition of the Introduction to Scientology Ethics, but it appears to have been puffed up. Originally it was a tiny book.
The Management Series, way back when, was one large Green volume that consisted of the Data Series, the Public Relations Series, the Personnel Series, the Organizing Series, the Finance Series, the Executive Series, and the Establishment Officer Series.
The Management Series excludes all confidential issues, such as confidential Policy Letters, which would include "sensitive" issues on public relations, propaganda, finance, etc.
All issues re. Scientology Intelligence (spying and dirty tricks) tech would also be excluded.
This is mentioned to let you know that these books (or related publicly available courses) do not provide a complete picture of Scientology.
In any event, there are a few places you could look, or people you could consult, such as the Advanced Org of the Great Plains, or Ron's Orgs. These are both "independent," and are preferable to dealing with Scientology Inc. (the "Church.")
Strongly recommend not giving either your mind, or too much of your money, but either might be helpful in assisting you to locate the materials you're seeking.
The conditions and management tech stuff is completely worthless. Look at the organizations that apply it the most and adhere to it the strictest. Scientology orgs, missions, narconons, etc. They are all failing.Ya I been through narcanon and worked for a church so that's why im trying to get the packets from outside of actual comm with the church that way no one's hounding me for money or signing up for working anywhere, trying to keep dev-t off of my line haha. I wanna implement some of the tech things in my business stats conditions and figured management series might be helpful but if I had the work sheets to do the practicals and written work I think it would be helpful.
I have over 15 years experience in the Sea Org, I've run my own business as a True Believer in Hubbard's Admin Tech. I have lots of experience trying to make that tech work. I speak from experience : It is a great way to destroy your business. Successful? Not a chance.Ya I been through narcanon and worked for a church so that's why im trying to get the packets from outside of actual comm with the church that way no one's hounding me for money or signing up for working anywhere, trying to keep dev-t off of my line haha. I wanna implement some of the tech things in my business stats conditions and figured management series might be helpful but if I had the work sheets to do the practicals and written work I think it would be helpful.
He did it"I have high hopes of smashing my name into history so violently that it it will take a legendary form...
That goal is the real goal as far as I am concerned.
Things which stand too consistently in my way make me nervous.
It's a pretty big job.
In a hundred years Roosevelt will have been forgotten - which gives some idea of the magnitude of my attempt.
And all this boils and froths inside my head."
Scientologists give a standing ovation to the giant L. Ron Hubbard signature.
Happy Hubbard fan(atic) club members gather beneath the giant LRH monogram.
I have over 15 years experience in the Sea Org, I've run my own business as a True Believer in Hubbard's Admin Tech. I have lots of experience trying to make that tech work. I speak from experience : It is a great way to destroy your business. Successful? Not a chance.
I wrote about it in Scientology's Admin Tech.
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It was tried, in the real world, by Allstate Insurance. Read about it here. The more you try to apply it exactly as written by Hubbard, the worse it gets. His Admin Tech can destroy any business.
I think you will find a classic example of your statement there using Jim Jones of the Jonestown infamy.Sometimes even if we had good intentions (I still give Hubbard the benefit of the doubt - at least at the beginning), when we dont do the right thing, we fuck up royally. And that is the history or the attempt of Scientology. Hubbard failed and - if there is any truth to reincarnation - when he comes back he should make use of some of the overt and withhold technology he devised. Sometimes when you fuck up, many many people get hurt and that is the sad part of the story. People who attended Scientology were damaged in the same way the shareholders of Enron or the investors in Bernie Madhoff. These last ones were raped financially. People who attended scientology - if they didn't make large use of the "critical websites" - they ended up being raped both spiritually and financially. Yet, we can add that the indicators that something was wrong, particularly after the year 2000 were all over the place.