EXCEPTIONAL BRILLIANCE ALERT!
I just finished listening/watching that interview with Karen. Without any exaggeration, it's entirely next level, one of the greatest explanations of how and why Scientologists get crazy-glued into the crazy-cult!
Besides being very entertaining, I think it's a (not-to-be-missed) missing link in illuminating how Scientologists questing for pleasure ended up binding themselves in 1000 Gulliver-esque knots, until they were fully immobilized and unable to escape.
I loved that interview and strongly recommend it as an entertaining and illuminating gem!