Scientology CULT lawyers. Big bucks. Big payments to block opponents and cover it all up

KKS

“Knowing yourself is the beginning of all wisdom.”
Even though this was published in 2012, its an extremely interesting view at Cult Lawyers that take big bucks ~~ huge sums of money to firewall and protect.
I posted this earlier maybe is aids you"


Founder of Scientology - L. Ron Hubbard - ordered lockup of 4½ year old little boy
Transcripts and images of TV program SECRET LIVES - L. Ron Hubbard ( en Français )

He put this 4½ year old little boy - Derek Greene - into the chain locker for two days and two nights. It's a closed metal container, it's wet, it's full of water and seaweed, it smells bad. But Derek was sitting up, on the chain, in this place, on his own, in the dark, for two days and two nights... people heard him crying. That is sheer, total brutality. That is child abuse.
(View SECRET LIVES - L. Ron Hubbard in realvideo)​



Founder of Scientology - L. Ron Hubbard - ordered lockup of deaf-mute girl
From the book "Messiah or Madman" by Bent Corydon

Hubbard had ordered a little girl who was a deafmute down into the chain locker sometime in 1968. Hubbard was going to cure her deaf-ness by shoving her down there! This came to my attention after she'd been there for about a week because the Master at Arms at the time, a beautiful girl, came to me and said, "John, I've got to have you come and see what's going on."
From the book "Religion Inc.: the Church of Scientology" by Stewart Lamont

McMaster remembers once being asked by the Master at Arms to come and help her, He pulled up the wedge from the chain-locker, a dank and unhealthy part of the ship into which offenders were flung without food as a punishment. Out crawled a little girl who turned out to be a deaf-mute who had been unable to write her name and had incurred the Commodore's wrath.



Affidavit of Monica Pignotti

I also witnessed a fourteen year old boy being locked up in the chain locker of the ship, where he was made to spend the night. The chain locker is a small dark space where the chain to the anchor to the ship is stored when the ship is not at anchor. The boy was being put in the chain locker by three teen-age L. Ron Hubbard messengers. I witnessed this happening several times to people, even though I never experienced it myself.



Interview with David Mayo (auf Deutsch)

The length of time for children would vary, but no one was there less than a day. The average was a week or two. Three weeks was about the maximum. Age didn't matter. The youngest kids were 5, 6 or 7. Old, young, men, women, big, little; it wouldn't matter because to Scientologists the being is ageless so you don't think in terms of how young or old someone is.



Little Mark and Tony

The four-year-old boy could no longer cry. He had been nearly 48 hours in the chain locker of the flagship _Apollo_ and his entire body was aching from his efforts to chip off rust. His knees and hands were raw with cuts and bruises. His voice was raspy from crying, and he was desperately afraid.
Keep in mind that the chain locker was a dangerous and scary place to be put in. One adult nearly was killed there. Was it no pleasure for adults, the experience for little children must have been a very traumatic one.

From the book "messiah or madman" by bent corydon

The chain locker was dangerous. Located at the very bow of the ship under the water-line. It was the place where the section of the chain not in the water was stored. When the entire chain was brought up it filled most of this comparatively small, wet, dark, and some- times rat-infested locker. The only thing that was holding the chain in the locker was what is called a devil's claw, which was located well above the locker on the deck of the ship. If someone were to kick the claw, the entire chain would be pulled at high speed out of the locker by the weight of the anchor, and anyone down in the locker could very easily get caught in the outgoing chain and be yanked to his death.



Lawrence Wollersheim interviews Jesse Prince who was 2nd in command of Scientology

Just looking at it now, those children were so under-nourished, just not whole, complete children, because L. Ron Hubbard figures barley water is better than milk. . . I've seen those children, 15 to 20 of them in a filthy room, filthy carpet, food everywhere, and playing. If one of them got out of line, they'd just lock them in a room and let them scream itself to death, or scream itself to sleep. . . They make them do what's called rocks and shows, where if they do something that they weren't told to do, they have to do sit-ups, push-ups from the cradle they are punished. From the cradle the children are punished.
(for more on Hubbard's barley water formula see the barley page)​



Delphi puts sick boy in solitary confinement.
Biased Journalism Volume, December 25, 1996

The boy was locked in a small room with no TV, no entertainment and no company, for almost the entire time. He was fed and an adult came to check on him a few times during the day. . . an ethics officer, who stood by while the child talked to his mother. The message was clear, "don't you dare complain."



FLAG ORDER 1630 , 3 December 1968 by L. Ron Hubbard

If a child or these children are found in Hold l _or_ any hidden compartment of the ship they are to be locked up.



Affidavit of Tonja C. Burden
25 January 1980

On a number of occasions, I saw people placed in the 'chain lockers' of the boat on direct orders of Hubbard. These lockers were small, smelly holes, covered by grates where the chain for the anchor was stored. I saw one boy held in there for 30 nights, crying and begging to be released. He was only allowed out to clean the bilges where the sewer and refuse of the ship collected. I believe his 'crimes' were taking or using a musical instrument, I believe a flute, of someone else without permission. I also saw a young boy and a young girl thrown in the chain lockers at separate times because of romantic involvements they had with other people.



Life aboard Scientology's ship 'The Apollo' in 1968
Posting of Steve Manning 8 Mar 2000

I was twelve years old and witnessed children younger than myself being thrown into the chain locker (a room for storing the anchor while at sea) for days on end until they persuaded the ethics officer that they were not enemies. Physical abuse of children was rife.



Sister page: Children and teens and Scientology's Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF)

According to Scientology "Any law which applies to the behavior of men and women applies to children" and "A child is a man or a woman who has not attained full growth." On the basis of these direct quotes of the founder of Scientology and Dianetics, L. Ron Hubbard, it is no surprise that the harsh forced labour and self-confessions on the RPF program with its social isolation and a maximum of 6 hours of sleep per night, is also applied to children.
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Why can't Scientology behave like a decent organization should, caring for its youth? Why does it have to violate the Universal Declaration of Human Right in pursuit of profit?​

The answer lies with their founder L. Ron Hubbard, who made his word into law for scientologists. Scientology can not change therefor, not by themselves, it would be against all that is sacred for them to abandon the twisted ideas of child abuse which emanated from Hubbard. If we want to see a change in the organization's attitude toward children then it can only come from outward pressure. Get active, write your US representative, politicians, media and inform your friends. Spread the word!


What does the Declaration has to say about these inhuman Scientology practices?​





Article 5.
  • No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
Article 9.
  • No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.
    (2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.
Article 30.
  • Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.​
    Adopted and proclaimed by General Assembly resolution 217 A (III) of 10 December 1948.
 
Founder of Scientology - L. Ron Hubbard - ordered lockup of 4½ year old little boy
Transcripts and images of TV program SECRET LIVES - L. Ron Hubbard ( en Français )
Please list the names of the Apollo crew members who carried out those vile orders (confinement of a preschooler Derek Green to the chain locker).

Where are these persons in present time and how did they fare after doing such a thing ?

And why does the critic community consistently omit this information whenever this story is reported ?

Also, what kind of parents (Felice Green and ?) would permit such a thing without attempting to slaughter everyone involved ? :mad:

Where are the parents and the child now and what became of them afterwards ?

Why is that information missing from the story ?

The same applies to overboarding, forced bilge cleaning and pretty much any other over-the-top punishment Ron Hubbard ordered on the Apollo.
 
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Karen#1

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Please list the names of the Apollo crew members who carried out those vile orders (confinement of a preschooler Derek Green to the chain locker).



And why does the critic community consistently omit this information whenever this story is reported ?

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The same applies to overboarding, forced bilge cleaning and pretty much any other over-the-top punishment Ron Hubbard ordered on the Apollo.
This is not accurate or TRUE.
Have you taken the time to read Janis Grady's 2 books ?
There is much Whos Whys Whens Hows

 

KKS

“Knowing yourself is the beginning of all wisdom.”
Please list the names of the Apollo crew members who carried out those vile orders (confinement of a preschooler Derek Green to the chain locker).

Where are these persons in present time and how did they fare after doing such a thing ?

And why does the critic community consistently omit this information whenever this story is reported ?

Also, what kind of parents (Felice Green and ?) would permit such a thing without attempting to slaughter everyone involved ? :mad:

Where are the parents and the child now and what became of them afterwards ?

Why is that information missing from the story ?

The same applies to overboarding, forced bilge cleaning and pretty much any other over-the-top punishment Ron Hubbard ordered on the Apollo.
Please list the names of the Apollo crew members who carried out those vile orders (confinement of a preschooler Derek Green to the chain locker).

Where are these persons in present time and how did they fare after doing such a thing ?

And why does the critic community consistently omit this information whenever this story is reported ?

Also, what kind of parents (Felice Green and ?) would permit such a thing without attempting to slaughter everyone involved ? :mad:

Where are the parents and the child now and what became of them afterwards ?

Why is that information missing from the story ?

The same applies to overboarding, forced bilge cleaning and pretty much any other over-the-top punishment Ron Hubbard ordered on the Apollo.
You are still blind
 

KKS

“Knowing yourself is the beginning of all wisdom.”

THESE ARE ALL LIES

In the Netherlands, there is no dispute by the government regarding the religious status and nature of the Church of Scientology. Over the years, both the Executive Branch and the Courts have issued numerous recognitions of Scientology as a religion and the Church of Scientology as a religious organization providing religious services to its parishioners. The Church of Scientology is registered as a religious organization and the Scientology Church is incorporated as a legal entity.
Government ministries in the Netherlands express their recognition of the Scientology religion by their treatment of the Church, its parishioners and ministers. For example, the Justice Department grants Scientology ministers the right to visit prisons to counsel and minister to prisoners; the Education Department grants Scientologists the right to form their own schools for educating their children in accordance with their religious beliefs; and the Tax Office accepts Scientology’s status as a religion.
In 2007, a Scientology parishioner successfully petitioned the Court for her child to engage in home study based on her and her daughter’s religious beliefs. The Court relied on the European Court of Human Rights decision in Church of Scientology v. Moscow (5 April 2007, Appl. 18147/02) in reaching this decision. In 1991, in accordance with the principles of religious equality and non-discrimination, a tax inspector was instructed by his seniors to treat the income tax statement of a Scientology minister the same as those of clergy of other religions.
 
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