Scientology Continues to Fail in Australia’s Capital

[Karen#1]

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The "ideal org" charade goes on and on and on.

Surely someone needs to get some control over their promotional items.

This one says everything that needs to be said about scientology "expansion." They have invested millions for a building and they have 7 staff . This is not even a Dianetics Counseling Group, let alone a Mission.

Remember when they used to promote the upcoming ideal orgs with shots of dozens of staff waving on the steps -- Valley and Tampa and London etc. All those orgs are dead as doornails despite having much larger fields (I would guess the size of the Central files in Canberra is about 5% of any of these 3), many more staff and larger buildings better situated than the new Canberra building.~~~READ MORE

Scientology Continues to Fail in Australia’s Capital

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[I M Dex]

It seems obvious to me that Miscavige's game is to show an impressive facade to keep the donations coming in. Malignant narcissist that he is, the inherent failures of Scientology to deliver on all the promises are blamed on "everybody but me is an idiot who fails me, and I just have to bypass them all to keep everything together", and to those of us with much of a Scientology background, it's obvious that he's not even trying to make "the tech" work and get it delivered anymore. Just managing to show impressive buildings with deluded skeleton crews who believe they're successfully "clearing the planet" to keep the donating "whales" believing and giving.

 

[Isaac]

Correction to the title
Scientology has failed everywhere

Due to the internet and brave SP’s
Scientology is “being nothing” on L Ron Hubbard’s Tone Scale
Empty Morgues, Crimes against humanity and broken and traumatized members are the result of L Ron’s tech and David Miscavige’s iron fist
(As tiny as it may be)
Scientology peddles snake oil

 

[Enthetan]

Remember when they used to promote the upcoming ideal orgs with shots of dozens of staff waving on the steps -- Valley and Tampa and London etc. All those orgs are dead as doornails despite having much larger fields (I would guess the size of the Central files in Canberra is about 5% of any of these 3), many more staff and larger buildings better situated than the new Canberra building.~~~READ MORE

Scientology is currently a real estate holding company masquerading as a church.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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WOW! THEY'RE GOING IDEAL!!

THAT'S THEIR PURPOSE!

THAT'S THEIR MOTTO!

THAT'S THEIR R-FACTOR!

ONE PURPOSE

ONE TEAM

1.1

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[Cat's Squirrel]

It seems obvious to me that Miscavige's game is to show an impressive facade to keep the donations coming in. Malignant narcissist that he is, the inherent failures of Scientology to deliver on all the promises are blamed on "everybody but me is an idiot who fails me, and I just have to bypass them all to keep everything together", and to those of us with much of a Scientology background, it's obvious that he's not even trying to make "the tech" work and get it delivered anymore. Just managing to show impressive buildings with deluded skeleton crews who believe they're successfully "clearing the planet" to keep the donating "whales" believing and giving.

I agree but as I've said before, for how long does he think he can get away with it before someone rumbles him?

Scientology used to be known as the "high IQ religion," and when I was "in" I knew (amongst others) a doctor, a dentist, a civil servant at the Royal Mint, a software designer and a couple of engineers. It's hard to believe that everyone still "in" is going to be taken in indefinitely without one of them at least suspecting something.

He's skating on very thin ice right now, and my guess is he knows it.

 

[I M Dex]

I agree but as I've said before, for how long does he think he can get away with it before someone rumbles him?

Scientology used to be known as the "high IQ religion," and when I was "in" I knew (amongst others) a doctor, a dentist, a civil servant at the Royal Mint, a software designer and a couple of engineers. It's hard to believe that everyone still "in" is going to be taken in indefinitely without one of them at least suspecting something.

He's skating on very thin ice right now, and my guess is he knows it.

Intelligence is not protection against various forms of seduction. People "feel stupid" once they realize they've been taken, but we are all vulnerable, one way or another, when tempted well enough. The best inoculation is having been taken advantage of previously, and the next best is becoming informed before you can be fooled.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

yScientology (or cults in general) is that someone must have some very high octane mental mixture of NAIVE, GULLIBLE & STUPID. Those are 3 different things.

- - A young child who burns their fingers by touching a hot pot is not stupid or gullible. They are naive. They simply haven't learned the ways of the world yet, which is no surprise for a 3 year old. ​

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- - A young teenager who eagerly learns about science from a celebrated scientist and best-selling author is not stupid. They are not necessarily naive. They are certainly gullible. That would describe me when I first heard of the marvelous scientific discoveries of a doctor and nuclear scientist, Dr. Hubbard. LOL. It was gullibility with an energetic splash of naiveté that made me NOT ever even consider that a best-selling ADULT could get their breakthrough "modern science" published (i.e. DMSMH) could be a degenerate liar. I had no idea that adults could lie so audaciously & pathologically that large numbers of other adults could be suckered into their con game and businesses could be tricked into publishing and selling their books around the world! They don't teach that subject in school. ​

​

- - How about someone who wants to purchase a $500,000 Patek Philippe watch and searches the internet to find a reputable dealer. Then they find one who has the exact model and condition they are dreaming of and for a very fair price of $475,000. Now, this individual is a very successful multi-millionaire brain surgeon who is certainly not naive nor gullible. And they are sophisticated enough to first do their "due diligence" by reading the REVIEWS from that dealer's online website. After reading a lot of fantastically positive reviews, they happily make the purchase. And it turns out 5 years later when they take their prized watch for customary servicing that the horologist has some very bad news. The internal works of their "priceless" watch is neither original nor is it done with certified Patek Philippe parts! It's a fugazi. Are they stupid? Yes. Because despite their due diligence and carefully inspecting all those glowingly positive online reviews---they neglected to read the WORST reviews, where enraged customers warned that the watchsmith was a crook. ​

Now about that brain surgeon. They are not lacking intelligence, because otherwise they could not have become one of the world's premiere brain surgeons.

However they are stupid. It's the special kind of stupid that Tom Cruise has. As a majestically and miraculously messianic moviestar, he never reads those bad reviews online about L. Ron Hubbard and his sociopathic cult. It's not up to his high theta level since those disgruntled reviews are "low toned" and "entheta". Instead, he focuses intensely on the "theta wins" of others. John Travolta doesn't read bad reviews either, plus he refuses to even look at feature length documentaries that expose the COS (Crimewave of Scientology).

Trust me, I have done a lot of personal research on gullibility, naivete and stupidity after spending enough years trying to make Hubbard's magic tonic perform magic feats. LOL. On the (slightly) positive side of my trip to the theme park of HubbardLand, I did at least demonstrate that I wasn't a quitter, because i stayed with it until the very upper OT levels when I finally was convinced that there was no such thing as OT. I should at least get a lapel pin for that, no? LOL

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[mimsey borogrove]

Intelligence is not protection against various forms of seduction. People "feel stupid" once they realize they've been taken, but we are all vulnerable, one way or another, when tempted well enough. The best inoculation is having been taken advantage of previously, and the next best is becoming informed before you can be fooled.

He has it rigged to make it close to impossible to get a refund. I don't think he thinks it works. I think he simply does what he thinks will bring in more cash. As a criminal sociopath, he has no remorse in harming anyone to get their money and to remain in power, to harm anyone pissing him off, such as Leah and Rinder etc.

Do what thou wilt, Hubbard's motto, suits David just fine.

Mimsey

 

[mimsey borogrove]

HH is hereby awarded the bestest bowling trophy eveah for Tone 41 persistence!

 

[The_Fixer]

Miscavige has serious competition with Canberra.
The place is our political capital territory.
Woke is the political flavour there along with radical feminism, so Scientology hasn't got a snowflake's chance in hell of sneaking past that agenda.

For the uninitiated, the ACT, of which Canberra is the central hub is a state or territory that was created only to serve politics at the federal level.

Therefore, political mental masturbation is its primary purpose and they are masters at it compared to Scientology.

Scientology does not like competition.

Canberra likes it much less.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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Jeez, i wonder what that first paragraph read before it glitched out and lost the first sentences. Trying to remember what i was writing about. LOL

Maybe I was writing something like this. . .

"While Scientologists chanting about "ideal orgs" and "planet clearing" and other delusional fantasies may be a screaming sign that they are just stupid, the reason that people join Scientology (or cults in general) is that someone might have a very different high octane cocktail of NAIVETE, GULLIBILITY and/or STUPIDITY. . ."

(see full uncorrected rant below)​

yScientology (or cults in general) is that someone must have some very high octane mental mixture of NAIVE, GULLIBLE & STUPID. Those are 3 different things.

- - A young child who burns their fingers by touching a hot pot is not stupid or gullible. They are naive. They simply haven't learned the ways of the world yet, which is no surprise for a 3 year old. ​

​

- - A young teenager who eagerly learns about science from a celebrated scientist and best-selling author is not stupid. They are not necessarily naive. They are certainly gullible. That would describe me when I first heard of the marvelous scientific discoveries of a doctor and nuclear scientist, Dr. Hubbard. LOL. It was gullibility with an energetic splash of naiveté that made me NOT ever even consider that a best-selling ADULT could get their breakthrough "modern science" published (i.e. DMSMH) could be a degenerate liar. I had no idea that adults could lie so audaciously & pathologically that large numbers of other adults could be suckered into their con game and businesses could be tricked into publishing and selling their books around the world! They don't teach that subject in school. ​

​

- - How about someone who wants to purchase a $500,000 Patek Philippe watch and searches the internet to find a reputable dealer. Then they find one who has the exact model and condition they are dreaming of and for a very fair price of $475,000. Now, this individual is a very successful multi-millionaire brain surgeon who is certainly not naive nor gullible. And they are sophisticated enough to first do their "due diligence" by reading the REVIEWS from that dealer's online website. After reading a lot of fantastically positive reviews, they happily make the purchase. And it turns out 5 years later when they take their prized watch for customary servicing that the horologist has some very bad news. The internal works of their "priceless" watch is neither original nor is it done with certified Patek Philippe parts! It's a fugazi. Are they stupid? Yes. Because despite their due diligence and carefully inspecting all those glowingly positive online reviews---they neglected to read the WORST reviews, where enraged customers warned that the watchsmith was a crook. ​

Now about that brain surgeon. They are not lacking intelligence, because otherwise they could not have become one of the world's premiere brain surgeons.

However they are stupid. It's the special kind of stupid that Tom Cruise has. As a majestically and miraculously messianic moviestar, he never reads those bad reviews online about L. Ron Hubbard and his sociopathic cult. It's not up to his high theta level since those disgruntled reviews are "low toned" and "entheta". Instead, he focuses intensely on the "theta wins" of others. John Travolta doesn't read bad reviews either, plus he refuses to even look at feature length documentaries that expose the COS (Crimewave of Scientology).

Trust me, I have done a lot of personal research on gullibility, naivete and stupidity after spending enough years trying to make Hubbard's magic tonic perform magic feats. LOL. On the (slightly) positive side of my trip to the theme park of HubbardLand, I did at least demonstrate that I wasn't a quitter, because i stayed with it until the very upper OT levels when I finally was convinced that there was no such thing as OT. I should at least get a lapel pin for that, no? LOL

...

 

[Cat's Squirrel]

Intelligence is not protection against various forms of seduction. People "feel stupid" once they realize they've been taken, but we are all vulnerable, one way or another, when tempted well enough. The best inoculation is having been taken advantage of previously, and the next best is becoming informed before you can be fooled.

I agree. I wonder if it would be practical to offer some kind of education about cults and how they operate as part of the school curriculum?

We had a discussion on the old board about what, if anything, made people susceptible to joining a cult, and one of the main things that came out was that people who join cults are often looking for a father figure (Bobby Fischer, who never knew his real father and joined a religious cult before he became world chess champion, was a case in point).

 

[The_Fixer]

I agree. I wonder if it would be practical to offer some kind of education about cults and how they operate as part of the school curriculum?

We had a discussion on the old board about what, if anything, made people susceptible to joining a cult, and one of the main things that came out was that people who join cults are often looking for a father figure (Bobby Fischer, who never knew his real father and joined a religious cult before he became world chess champion, was a case in point).

The problem there is that it would probably expose the education system itself and especially Universities as cultic in nature today.

I would guess they wouldn't be too keen on exposing themselves as well.

 

[Cat's Squirrel]

The problem there is that it would probably expose the education system itself and especially Universities as cultic in nature today.

I would guess they wouldn't be too keen on exposing themselves as well.

Yes. Here's another article by Ken Wilber, putting the other side of the story and saying that cults are inevitable in the early genesis of a religion or school of thought and can sometimes be beneficial;

https://adidawilber.com/on_heroes_and_cults/

Wilber later went on to repudiate Da Free John and in particular his "crazy wisdom" teaching, which he felt was abusive.