Overheard in the Freezone

PirateAndBum

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You will be like floating... pretty much :D

“If you’re a big enough Thetan and you stay on the Bridge, you will be like floating, your postulates creating anything you desire pretty much and you will be completely protected from any other SP’s invalidation. It’s like another world that they can’t touch. So I don’t agree with their validation affecting us. Yes, the other entities attached to us could, no doubt, but the OT levels detach all of those – and still creating magic, like creating MEST out of thin air is not possible for anybody on this planet! It’s also a mystery why in other planets why Thetans can destroy all the people on them. I projected myself in full color from all around a planet and reached down and tortured all the people just before getting implanted and coming here. So there must be some sort of ‘protection’ around this planet so other Thetans can’t do that here – maybe a force screen? But still the creating MEST out of thin air is not possible and is a mystery as of yet.”
 

PirateAndBum

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The looney just keeps on looning

“L. Ron Hubbard is the basic engram. When I recognized that I immediately felt more alive. I could hear the wind, feel the wind flowing through my body, see the leaves moving. To carry on a mission like Scientology you need more than raw intelligence, you need a havingness for Truth, a degree of acceptance. At the end of the day, LRH is the one who set up the Church, the one who started the abuses, and everyone else agreed to follow. That’s the truth! LRH was after all, and for all his life, an Anglo-Saxon, a man imbued in the sins and the traits of his culture. Too little human. This is not a comment against Scientology, quite the contrary. Scientology is a chest full of gold, the thing you need to know. The danger of going with the misunderstood to follow LRH is the thing you need to avoid to succeed in the mission. As long as you don’t as-is, you are subjected to fail. That being said, LRH is still my second favorite person, and only two persons have impressed me that much. [Who’s the first?] Adolf Hitler.”
 

Karakorum

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PirateAndBum

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To serve humans. Are you being served?

“If it were to be the case that some extraterrestrial beings do in fact eat human bodies, would it be ‘better’ if those ETs audited the humans they were going to consume? Just as we eat chickens and cows and pigs. Shall we audit the chickens, cows and pigs? So as to reduce the ‘entheta’ coming in? It is a well known fact that sheep or goat meat has toxins and tastes bad if it is not well ‘processed.’ In Mexico, the ‘processing’ starts by getting the sheep or goat drunk with alcohol, so that it does not suffer from stress. And there is also the Jewish concept of Kosher food. It is intended so that the animal does not suffer unnecessarily from the killing process. ‘The ‘entheta’ generated in the crazy ‘farm factories’ (birth, rising and killing) is enormous and needs to be dealt with.”
 

PirateAndBum

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The cognitive dissonance displayed here is stunning.

Scn can be reborn after it is completely dead. It doesn't work so next time let's not make those promises. :D

“I see the possibility of a renaissance of Scientology. It can be big again. A second opportunity. An opportunity to make it go right. To learn from past mistakes and not commit it again. However, currently the group is going through a process of dying and in my opinion the process must be carried through to its end. The place looks like a ghost town. It’s hard to see it, but to deny won’t help it. We must make an honest review, see what went wrong and do it again. The death of the Scientology group must probably be completed and at the same time we can try again. What were the worst mistakes of us? Give your opinion. Mine is: promising states that were never achievable. Pretension of having attained such states.”
 

Karakorum

Broke ranks over 10 years ago, never looked back
The cognitive dissonance displayed here is stunning.

Scn can be reborn after it is completely dead. It doesn't work so next time let's not make those promises. :D
Yes, scientology has to die to then become reborn. Like phoenix it will rise from the volcanic ash. Soon nobody will remember scientology, but the titanium plates deep underground will remain.

Then a thousand years later the angel Moroni will appear to a farmer's son and tell him about these engraved plates... oh wait, is this a crossover episode? :hysterical:
 

PirateAndBum

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Scientolo-world

“Life in Scientology Town, USA: A Narrative for your Consideration. In Scientology Town, coordination and cooperation are the rule of the day, not competition. In our factories and fields, almost everything is made, harvested, maintained, and repaired by intelligent machines, and near-human autonomous robots. Human people and our alien friends create art, culture, games, do interesting research, and maintain Scientology outposts on nearby inhabited planets. Our schools and universities use study tech and Hubbard educational methods. School attendance is not mandatory. Education is loads of fun. Students absorb materials online or in study centers where teachers, trainers, drill instructors, and courseroom supervisors monitor the students but generally do not repeat the same principles of the study material which has already been well delineated in the materials. Our communities do not have police departments. Military operations take place only on other planets. On Earth, we have Ethics Officers, who only teach principles. They do not punish or penalize. There are no SPs or PTSs, except in off-Earth locations. Our Government runs off of HCO PLs, and generally avoids making additional laws, restrictions, regulations, or requiring licensing as a prerequisite. We do not have psychs. There are no drug manufacturers. We have no recreational drugs, and no drugs, period. Our doctors teach health principles. They do not perform surgeries. They heal with physical therapy. We have almost no lawyers because we don’t need them. The few agreed-upon laws are founded upon HCOPLs and we ourselves can read and understand them; we don’t need lawyers in order to understand them or to represent us in front of a committee or court of law. It is not at all dangerous to speak for ourselves or advance our concerns here. There are a lot of us who work in space, busily constructing space stations or running space-resort complexes.”
 

TheSneakster

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Seriously though, why doesn't Tony Ortega list the sources of any of these quotations so that the reader may know which particular faction(s) is/are spewing this kind of nonsense and whether they are actually representative of the Freezone as a whole ? Besides that, they are undated, so is this recent stuff, old Bill Robertson related craziness or what ?

Tony Ortega doesn't hang out in Freezone / Independent Scientology venues, so somebody who obviously wishes to remain anonymous is feeding this stuff to him.
 

JustSheila

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Seriously though, why doesn't Tony Ortega list the sources of any of these quotations so that the reader may know which particular faction(s) is/are spewing this kind of nonsense and whether they are actually representative of the Freezone as a whole ? Besides that, they are undated, so is this recent stuff, old Bill Robertson related craziness or what ?

Tony Ortega doesn't hang out in Freezone / Independent Scientology venues, so somebody who obviously wishes to remain anonymous is feeding this stuff to him.
Good point. Like those off-the-wall anonymous QAnon posts that Tony likes to publish.

I only know of one or two FZers this wacky and the rest of the FZers don’t see them as normal, either. Most FZers don’t write this kind of stuff publicly AFAIK.
 

PirateAndBum

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My guess is that these quotes are coming from private FB groups. From time to time I've done a google search on key phrases and never had a match.
 

PirateAndBum

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“The field is almost dead. It is well possible that the Scientology third dynamic dies by the next generation. It could be saved, but there’s no reason to believe it might occur. I’ve written and wondered about what’s needed to prevent this from happening. It’s gotten old. People have gotten tired. Too many disappointments. Many survivors have huge egos that prevent them from agreeing with others. It’s low-toned. Funnily, this is the best possible time for the Scientology third-dynamic to thrive. There’s Internet and it’s cheap. The Church has ceased to exist as a threat. There’s a friendly and interested world that is willing to see what we have to offer. But it’s arrived too late. There’s too much unhealed pain. Too much shouting that hasn’t been fully listened to. Expectations of major spiritual breakthroughs that never occurred. Bankruptcy. I’ve made proposals — Magick rituals, PR campaigns — But what I deem is really-really-really important is more simple. And it’s been overlooked: Diagnosis. Simply diagnosis. A simply thorough looking of the area to see what is really going on. How are we doing. How do we feel. Maybe we can at least die as saints?”
The disconnect is astounding. What is really really really important is ... diagnosis. WTF?

Maybe we can at least die as saints?

I don't think any FZ'er is going to die as a saint.

Sounds like the tone level is approaching death. That's where indy scn has wound up - in apathy. Scientologirl -- where are you!
 

TheSneakster

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Sounds like the tone level is approaching death. That's where indy scn has wound up - in apathy.
No. This is one and only one person - who doesn't speak for or represent all of Independent Scientology.
 

Karakorum

Broke ranks over 10 years ago, never looked back
Maybe we can at least die as saints?
Latter day saints?

Oh wait, this is another crossover episode?

Sounds like the tone level is approaching death. That's where indy scn has wound up - in apathy. Scientologirl -- where are you!
🎵 Where have you gone, oh Commodore 🎵
🎵 The church turns its lonely eyes to you 🎵
🎵 Woo, woo, woo 🎵
🎵 What's that you say, Cpt. Robertson 🎵
🎵 Shifty Ron has left and gone away 🎵
🎵 Hey, hey, hey 🎵
🎵 Hey, hey, hey 🎵
 
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PirateAndBum

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Given the awesome weather control capabilities of the Clearwater OTs I think they should be brought in on handling global warming. They can start yet another front group: "Citizens for a Cooler Planet"

“Again a tornado skips hitting the Scientology town of Clearwater, Florida. It happens time and time again. Would you like to know why? Because the church calls in its top wizards to use their thoughts to create reality, and these dudes sit around doing Scientology mind exercises and this sends the tornado away from Clearwater. Lol, I’m not joking, the truth about spiritual abilities is being hidden from us by the powers that be because only they want the powers!”
 

PirateAndBum

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“Where are we going to get PCs and Pre OTs for the Bridge? Apparently from extraterrestrials coming to Earth for services.”
Scratching my head. How do they do call-in and body routing? :scratch::screwy:
 
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