I'm curious as to why they were so eager to get her married at 16?When I realized what the sitch was, I was creeped out. Even got a sales talk by the SSO. "Ah, come on Chuck, yeah she's only 16 but you guys are cute together."
No, they were US citizens.I'm curious as to why they were so eager to get her married at 16?
Was she a non-citizen, needing a citizen husband to get a visa? (I recall there was a lot of that at one point)
Were they concerned she would go "out 2D" if they didn't find a guy for her soon?
Do you have a theory?
I'm curious as to why they were so eager to get her married at 16?
Was she a non-citizen, needing a citizen husband to get a visa? (I recall there was a lot of that at one point)
Were they concerned she would go "out 2D" if they didn't find a guy for her soon?
Do you have a theory?
One guess is that if the girl was married, she wouldn't need a guardian, and would be a legal adult.All I remember is this girl and her Mother were around for a few weeks. Then they were gone. I think her Mom was a longtime $cn. and wanted to put the daughter in the SO, particularly in INCOMM. If I ever knew the facts re: them, I've forgotten.
That's probably it.One guess is that if the girl was married, she wouldn't need a guardian, and would be a legal adult.
Yes, I recall reading that because of this, Bruce Hines was rushed through OT 6, as he was one of only two Solo NOTs auditors who spoke fluent German.Yes there was!
I drove more than one unlucky German to the airport to go to Vancouver, BC overnight because he couldn't get a 2d in the previous year and his visa ran out. That particular guy was shipped back to Hamburg after he got back to LA. FAIL! lol. I don't know what happened to the other guys.
We had quite a contingent of Germans at one point in time.
I was thinking about Scn and the dynamics yesterday. Everything you do should be checked against what's the best for all eight dynamics, that's what is ethical.I was not married in the SO...
.... but I came close!
At that time my significant other had defected. We lost touch entirely, that family wanted to have nothing to do with me (well duh! I was a cult enforcer!). I felt betrayed that this person defected without telling me - at that point I was ready to quit and if I was told we would have fled together. But as that did not happen, I was bitter. Previously I felt that there was trust between the two of us... and obviously there was no such thing.
I was so bitter that this made me scrap my plans to leave and probably prolonged my time in Scientology for over a year or so.
Anyway, back to the marriage plan story!
So there I was, single and bitter and some of our guys started suggesting that I marry another person that was single. The sales pitch was: "With your posts, you will surely get a small room for yourselves and you won't have to bother with this bunkbed barracks-shoobang thing anymore".
My initial thought was: "Wow, this makes sense. Obviously there’s not gonna be any love or sex or children. But a real room... wow. Great thing this marriage idea!"
And then came the bright flash: “What the hell am I thinking? This is insane!”
I was actually seriously thinking of getting married, just to be able to have a room with just one other person.So there I was, single and bitter and some of our guys started suggesting that I marry another person that was single. The sales pitch was: "With your posts, you will surely get a small room for yourselves and you won't have to bother with this bunkbed barracks-shoobang thing anymore".
EXACTLY! THIS! I HAD THE EXACT SAME THOUGHT PATTERN!I was actually seriously thinking of getting married, just to be able to have a room with just one other person.
Most of the time I was too tired to even think of sex, but a ROOM, ah, that was something.
No, it was not just you. It was the situational madness of the sea org.EXACTLY! THIS! I HAD THE EXACT SAME THOUGHT PATTERN!
Thanks for your post. I honestly was thinking it was just me and the guys at Inv that were screw balls in some way. Guess it was a mental plague in the SO. "Oh my god a room!"
In the EPF I shared a room with 5 or 7 other fellas, can't reemember if we were 6 or 8 to a room anymore, and we had all our stuff in bags up in the attic... Oh I started dreaming of a room for meself right then and there. Such madness!I was not married in the SO...
.... but I came close!
At that time my significant other had defected. We lost touch entirely, that family wanted to have nothing to do with me (well duh! I was a cult enforcer! ) I felt betrayed that this person defected without telling me - at that point I was ready to quit and if I was told about the escape plan, we would have fled together. But as that did not happen, I was bitter. Previously I felt that there was trust between the two of us... and obviously there was no such thing.
I was so bitter that this made me scrap my plans to leave and probably prolonged my time in Scientology for over a year or so.
Anyway, back to the marriage plan story!
So there I was, single and bitter and some of our guys started suggesting that I marry another person that was single. The sales pitch was: "With your posts, you will surely get a small room for yourselves and you won't have to bother with this bunkbed barracks-shoobang thing anymore".
My initial thought was: "Wow, this makes sense. Obviously there’s not gonna be any love or sex or children. But a real room... wow. Great thing this marriage idea!"
And then came the bright flash: “What the hell am I thinking? This is insane!”
In the UK the couples with kids got child allowance from the government. They were the ones that could afford ready made cigarettes the rest of us had to make our own, if we could afford cigarette papers, recycling the dog-ends smoked by the ones with kids they could even get luxuries like coffee and cake from the Saint Hill canteen and I believe they had soap and toothpaste too, possibly even sanitary products for ladies. The elite in the UK were never really well off, and 50 dollars a week was just a dream.In the EPF I shared a room with 5 or 7 other fellas, can't reemember if we were 6 or 8 to a room anymore, and we had all our stuff in bags up in the attic... Oh I started dreaming of a room for meself right then and there. Such madness!
When I was in, there was a reno project to clean up the Corona and they were fixing some of the worse problems in there, I was always hoping to get into a room with no mold, repaired windows(mine had newspapers and blankets to cover the areas where the glass was b roken) and with radiators working.
Some of me friends were married, They were the "lucky" ones I suppose.
I still can't understand how I thought I was in an elite organisation...
$50! I'd count meself rich if I ever had that much in the Sea Org!In the UK the couples with kids got child allowance from the government. They were the ones that could afford ready made cigarettes the rest of us had to make our own, if we could afford cigarette papers, recycling the dog-ends smoked by the ones with kids they could even get luxuries like coffee and cake from the Saint Hill canteen and I believe they had soap and toothpaste too, possibly even sanitary products for ladies. The elite in the UK were never really well off, and 50 dollars a week was just a dream.
I stopped smoking on staff. I stopped drinking coffee in the SO, never really had a use for biscuits.Didn't smoke, didn't need to buy from the cantine, like all true hard cores I only raided it for coffee, I got me biscuits from Netto.
How did you stay awake for those 15 hour days? I'd have thought coffee would have been a necessity among SO members...I stopped smoking on staff. I stopped drinking coffee in the SO, never really had a use for biscuits.
Only "luxury" stuff I went for were slim jims.