SuperstarNeilC
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Navajo Historian Wally Brown teaches about the traditional view on how people have to learn to be good.
Man is basically not good
Man is basically not good
Is that a bad thing?I like American Indians. But you are aware that many of them smoke mushrooms, don't you?
I like American Indians. But you are aware that many of them smoke mushrooms, don't you?
Smoking magic mushrooms is not the right technique to get psychedelic effects. You have to ingest them.It depends, my friend. It is being said that minds might not be that well-functioning on mushrooms.
Much depends on your definition of "good".Man is basically not good
There's also the definition of "basically".The definition of “good“ would be what the Western world deems good and upstanding. - A happy, stable, clean, competent individual.
A main tenet of Scientology is that “man is basically good” - It’s embedded in the subject. - We all believed it.
But the Navajo says man is basically NOT good. - Was Ron lying to us, to somehow “throw us off the scent.” ?
If the Navajo is right, then it causes the whole of Scio to topple like a house of cards. - If Ron can’t even get that right, it throws EVERYTHING he says into doubt.
I beg to differ. I would say that nothing in Scientology is based on "man is basically good". Not the ethics "tech", not auditing, not sec checks, nothing. Look at what people have to go through to do the OT levels. No, in Scientology, the assumption is "man is basically very evil".The definition of “good“ would be what the Western world deems good and upstanding. - A happy, stable, clean, competent individual.
A main tenet of Scientology is that “man is basically good” - It’s embedded in the subject. - We all believed it.
But the Navajo says man is basically NOT good. - Was Ron lying to us, to somehow “throw us off the scent.” ?
If the Navajo is right, then it causes the whole of Scio to topple like a house of cards. - If Ron can’t even get that right, it throws EVERYTHING he says into doubt.
LRH was one of many who prove that not all humans are "basically good".
Interesting. But is righteous "good"? Did you ask yourself if you are basically good? What is your answer?
I admit, I am no expert on mushrooms. I do like grilled portobello mushrooms.Smoking magic mushrooms is not the right technique to get psychedelic effects. You have to ingest them.
Maybe that's why their minds didn't work well afterwards.
On the other hand, some people say that the mind is incredibly sharp after ingesting magic mushrooms. I can't say this myself because I have never ingested magic mushrooms. However, with other psychedelics such as LSD, mescaline or other related products, I have had some interesting experiences. On the other hand, it is clear that one functions in a rather strange way in the "real" world during these trips and that driving a vehicle or operating dangerous machinery is totally inadvisable.
But all this is just a memory, because during my last trip, 25 years ago, I promised not to use any more psychedelics other than a little cannabis from time to time.
My answer is I work towards it all the time. You should look up righteous. I wouldn't say I was righteous but I work toward it. There are religions that believe that there are a numbers of life cycles that you have until you achieve such a state. they believe that they can get there faster by being as evil as they possibly can.Interesting. But is righteous "good"? Did you ask yourself if you are basically good? What is your answer?
They smoked tobacco. They had the good idea to pass this habit to the white man but unfortunately it did not help them in their fight against the invader because tobacco kills too slowly.I admit, I am no expert on mushrooms. I do like grilled portobello mushrooms.
But Indians often were smoking something. Whatever it was. I doubt that it makes you see better if someone is good or not.
North American Indian rock art and hallucinogenic drugs - PubMed
It is proposed that the aboriginal rock paintings in two areas of North America may have been produced by shamans while they were under the influence of hallucinogenic agents derived from plants. The first of these areas is the Chumash and Yokuts Indian region of California, where polychrome...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov