I left Scientology in 1975 for one overlooked, but important, reason

HelluvaHoax!

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story posted by Barile
Well, actually... he did actually make it to LA. Let me tell ya what happened. I was on an OT level, probably 2 or 3 at the time, this would have been about 1978, and I was driving down the street to go to AO to turn in my folder. I got to about LA org and
I was looking down the street for a parking spot, and from about 150 yards away I saw a BMW motorcycle turn the corner and start heading up the street towards me. I have always been hooked on motorcycles so I was fixated on this thing. As I got closer, a large man with reddish hair and a blue-grey silk shirt was piloting the bike.... I stuck my head out the window and sure enough.... he looked at me like "oh, shit.. I been spotted". It was indeed like spotting Big Foot. I dropped off my folder at AO and buzzed back to CC and ran into Ray Mithoff's office, slammed the door and said, "you'll never guess who I just saw." He looked at me quizzically for a moment and his eyes opened wide and he said, "LRH?". I said ya, sure did. . . (snipped).

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Cool story!

If that experience had happened to me, I would have sent it into ADVANCE! MAGAZINE* so it could have been published with all the other OT parking wins! .. :giggle:

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* Advance! Magazine: A periodic Scientology publication specializing in two (2) types of OT wins. 93% of the OT success stories involve miraculous events related to looking for parking spaces. The other 7% involve household appliances like toasters and waffle makers not working until an OT "spots the being" with a failed purpose inhabiting it, whereupon "the being" joyfully exteriorizes/blows and the device can continue producing an ever-increasing statistic of VFPs (Valuable Food Products).

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This is NOT OK !!!!

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Talking about "Capstan Tech", for anyone who isn't familiar. . .

There were thousands of Hubbard taped lectures. Imagine being in a stuffy course room and listening from morning until night to Hubbard pontificate about everything that has happened in the physical universe for quadrillions of years.

And with total certainty! lol

Well, it just got to be way too much to bear. So students discovered and used a little gimmick to SPEED UP the tapes to chipmunk levels---by tearing a piece of paper and rolling it up into a one inch cylinder; and then wrapping that around the "capstan" that controlled the speed the magnetic audiotape was running.

Thinking back on this today, it seems that everyone should have known there was something terribly wrong.

SURE SIGNS THAT SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY
WRONG WITH YOUR CULT

When the cult leader is revealing to you all of
the most fantastic and amazing secrets of the
universe and laying naked before your eager
eyes the very mystery of Life itself. Yet
you feel he is wasting your time and so
you turn the tape speed wayyyyyy up
so that you can finish that shit
and get the hell out of
there ASAP!


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WOW!!!

I'm ready to attest to Truth Revealed!!

I always wondered why orgs could not have adequate supplies of toilet paper. Many answers have been given, none of which blew down my needle.

The real reasons orgs do not have toilet paper is to keep the out-ethics students from wrapping it around the capstan to speed up the spoken insanity of Tubs!

Wow!

I mean,

WOW!!!!
Floating TA, VGIs,​
 
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HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
WOW!!!

I'm ready to attest to Truth Revealed!!

I always wondered why orgs could not have adequate supplies of toilet paper. Many answers have been given then, now, here and there, none of which blew down my needle.

The real reasons orgs do not have toilet paper is to keep the out ethics students from wrapping it around the capstan to speed up the spoken insanity of Tubs!

Wow!

I mean,

WOW!!!!!
Floating TA, VGIs,

LOL!!!

That toilet-paper-repurposing to fast forward Ron's interminable audio lectures is hilarious.

For anyone who has never sped up Dr. Hubbard's lectures, let me assure you that it sounds remarkably similar to the musical album "BEST HITS OF THE CHIPMUNKS!"


If I was advising COB, I'd suggest to immediately leverage and monetize the entire LRH audio lecture portfolio (speeded up to chipmunk-helium levels) and release a remix compilation album called: "FAST FORWARD FOUNDER!"

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Ed8

Member
What was described would certainly qualify as rape, but not ordinary rape, and is similar to an occult practice which I won't bother trying to explain, except to note that it appears, amongst other things, to have been an attempt at a sort of spiritual vampirism.
Read The alleged plagarizing novel The Magician, by W. Somerset Maugham. In it, Maugham describes the effect of this technique being used by a character who is a thinly veiled Aleister Crowley. Hubbard was in Crowley's O.T.O. when Hubbard was in Pasadena CA, and obviously received training in Magick. Let me just state that the upper indoc TRs are based on the technique used by magicians to command spirits, and appear to me to be based thereon without revealing the secret: Will. Someone trained in such techniques can also use them on people.
 

Cat's Squirrel

Active member
Read The alleged plagarizing novel The Magician, by W. Somerset Maugham. In it, Maugham describes the effect of this technique being used by a character who is a thinly veiled Aleister Crowley. Hubbard was in Crowley's O.T.O. when Hubbard was in Pasadena CA, and obviously received training in Magick. Let me just state that the upper indoc TRs are based on the technique used by magicians to command spirits, and appear to me to be based thereon without revealing the secret: Will. Someone trained in such techniques can also use them on people.
According to Colin Wilson, Gurdjieff was able to do something similar from a distance - he was able to bring a woman to orgasm who was sitting in a nearby table at a restaurant, by projecting some sort of occult force at her, so I have little doubt that something like this is possible. I tend to believe stories about Gurdjieff, who IMO was a remarkable if not particularly pleasant man.

Stuart Wilde (RIP) also describes, in one of his books ("The Trick To Money Is Having Some", I think), the case of a female occultist he'd known who would masturbate men in the etheric when she wanted something from them (e.g. a bank loan).

I don't think either of these actions are very ethical and certainly wouldn't recommend emulating them (I believe that one of the most important rules for anyone wanting to progress on the path is non-interference with or intrusion on others); my point in mentioning them is simply to raise the question of whether or not they're possible.
 

Ed8

Member
According to Colin Wilson, Gurdjieff was able to do something similar from a distance - he was able to bring a woman to orgasm who was sitting in a nearby table at a restaurant, by projecting some sort of occult force at her, so I have little doubt that something like this is possible. I tend to believe stories about Gurdjieff, who IMO was a remarkable if not particularly pleasant man.

Stuart Wilde (RIP) also describes, in one of his books ("The Trick To Money Is Having Some", I think), the case of a female occultist he'd known who would masturbate men in the etheric when she wanted something from them (e.g. a bank loan).

I don't think either of these actions are very ethical and certainly wouldn't recommend emulating them (I believe that one of the most important rules for anyone wanting to progress on the path is non-interference with or intrusion on others); my point in mentioning them is simply to raise the question of whether or not they're possible.
Cat's Squirrel,
You are right, these actions are very unethical. They are magick done using the body field and the theta body, both of which are energy fields. The theta body field is particularly powerful; it is this specific field used to acquire a body, whether a baby body after death of an old one, or stealing an adult body from its owner. It's also used by people to force others to have sex. It is a credit to W. Somerset Maugham that he was spiritually sensitive enough to spot this in Crowley; Crowley must have directed it at him, perhaps to silence him at the table?

The ability is very lose-lose (I lose and you lose), which casts an interesting harsh light on both sex and assuming a new body.
cheers
Ed
 

TheSneakster

Well-known member
Interesting, so Hubbard did not have a valid excuse for not appearing at any of the gala events held in his honor in Los Angeles during the 60s/70s ?
Exactly what officially sanctioned gala events were ever conducted in Los Angeles in Hubbard's honor at which he promised to appear but failed to do so ?

From early-1961 to late 1965, Ron Hubbard was at St. Hill, Sussex, England delivering the St. Hill Special Briefing Course (SHSBC) and researching a great deal of advanced material above Scientology Grades 0-IV that culminated in the Clearing Course. During the SHSBC, the only way to see Hubbard was become a student auditor on that course. This was well known at the time, too. From 1966-1975, he was running first his Sea Project and then The Sea Organization until the Apollo came ashore and the Flag Land Base was established.

When Hubbard was in charge, the organizations were - according to very clear and specific Public Division policy - forbidden from holding any expensive ("gala") public events at all. There was nothing even remotely like David "Darth Midget" Miscavige's gala Incessant Abusive Solicitation (IAS) donation events. The only authorized public events were Congresses, which were primarily teaching events aimed at introducing new people to Scientology techniques on an introductory level and to teach newer technical materials to practicing Scientologists.
 
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