Humans stagnate, go backwards, and go sideways, but very few go forward.

mimsey borogrove

Well-known member
Shades of Zecharia Sitchin:

Zecharia Sitchin was an author of books proposing an explanation for human origins involving ancient astronauts. Sitchin attributed the creation of the ancient Sumerian culture to the Anunnaki, which he stated was a race of extraterrestrials from a planet beyond Neptune called Nibiru. WIKI

He was doing a book reading at a bookstore in Santa Monica, and I asked him during the audience Q and A what started him on his journey, and he replied - "in the Torah it says man is created in our (Gods) image - I asked "why is it plural?" and the rabbi said to ignore that." I didn't. I wanted to know why. So I learned to read Sumerian"

Mimsey
 

Veda

Well-known member
Detail:
Do you believe that the genetic fusion that is human chromosome 2 was caused by outer-space aliens?
There was an interesting quote from a Senator, who seems to be privy to some of this, a rambling statement that was mostly redundant and meaningless - the way someone speaks when he's restrained by requirements of secrecy, but he did say one thing that caught my attention, "Do you really think that this [meaning the human race] is the best God could do?"

This would seem to be a dual hint: That whatever information might be revealed, if startling, would be framed as somehow sanctioned by God. The Vatican (which has, by the way, its own giant telescope) would also be in on this: Making the news palatable to the religious masses. The theological significance of there being other intelligent species from other planets (or from wherever?) could be disorienting and upsetting to a lot of people.

Add to that the possibility that, if other extraterrestrial species exist (with super advanced knowledge), they are genetically and intellectually and emotionally superior to humans.

Are humans the result of genetic fusion between ape-like creatures and race of aliens that are superior to humans?

And how about the avalanche of scientific advancements in the last several hundred years? Are we lowly hybrids receiving assistance from outside?

Are we someone's terrarium experiment?

Your guess is as good as mine.

The release date, for the report, was 25 June, but that date seems to be changing.

IMO, unless is this is some sort of a psy op, very little actual information will be released.

Meanwhile, those seeking to "build back better" by first destroying much of what is known as Western Civilization (a sort of repeat of the Cultural Revolution in China from years ago), are busy with their own plans, and with guiding the "useful idiots," and sell outs, who are assisting them.

Klaus Schwab, founder and Executive Chairman of the World Economic Forum, and President (for life) Xi of China.

I doubt if these lovely people would allow a report to be released that disrupted their plans.

But time will tell.








 

programmer_guy

True ex-Scientologist
1. Do you believe that when humans progressed from hunter-gatherer tribes to controlled agricultural production that this was caused by outer-space aliens?

2. Do you believe that when humans invented written language that this was caused by outer-space aliens?

3. Do you believe that when humans invented common medium of extchange (i.e money) that this was caused by outer-space aliens?

4. Do you believe that the industrial revolution was caused by outer-space aliens?
 
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Riddick

I clap to no man
That is the dilemma of the human race.

Were we a genetic experiment that failed? A mix of ape-man with super-humans, making human?

Would there be mass chaos, if Humankind was informed of this?









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don't know what you are trying to say? Humans have advanced and have lived longer than they did in the beginning of time from the get go. Science has advanced mankind with new discoveries every day and it is accelerating. People live longer than they did back in a ape man era and live longer back for the 1800's and 1900's.

And Hubbard with his metaphysical bullshit has not advanced mankind.
 

Veda

Well-known member
don't know what you are trying to say? Humans have advanced and have lived longer than they did in the beginning of time from the get go. Science has advanced mankind with new discoveries every day and it is accelerating. People live longer than they did back in a ape man era and live longer back for the 1800's and 1900's.

And Hubbard with his metaphysical bullshit has not advanced mankind.
The idea is that the human race is a hybrid consisting of an advanced (genetically superior) extraterrestrial race, and the crude semi-humans that were already here.

Announcing this would destabilize society.
 

La La Lou Lou

Well-known member
The idea is that the human race is a hybrid consisting of an advanced (genetically superior) extraterrestrial race, and the crude semi-humans that were already here.

Announcing this would destabilize society.
Homo Saps are a hybrid, we bred with Neanderthals and Denisovans and quite possibly a few other early homo species. All the other species we interbred with so far discovered have been Earthlings on our evolutionary line. It would be interesting to find that we also had physical relationships with Martians or Markabians. I don't think it's impossible, just can't imagine that any beings from a completely separately evolved planet would be having DNA similar enough to ours that we could breed. As far as I understand it would not be possible for a human to make babies with a dog or goat and according to theory many male Welshmen have tried female sheep, all without resulting sheeple.

I think that life outside of our planet is possible, I just don't think that aliens speak English with American accents, or look like anything seen on 1950s TV, or any other Earth Sci-fi series.

Look at how creatures evolved on distant Islands, so differently to those in the other areas, like marsupials in Australia, evolved differently from whatever creatures it might be related to in Eurasia, a duckbilled platypus would not be able to breed with a duck or a guinea-pig.

Many animals in this planet have a similar basic structure, a skeleton, a skull with two eyes two nostrils a mouth and so on, this would not need to be the case in a different planet with different mass, atmospheric pressure, chemistry and so on. We evolved because of the conditions on this little speck in a galaxy filled with very different planets.

We are similar to other primates, yet no known hybrid is recorded. We share a lot of DNA with other earth creatures and even with earth plants. Humans share almost all of our DNA with cats, cattle and mice
 

Veda

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Homo Saps are a hybrid, we bred with Neanderthals and Denisovans and quite possibly a few other early homo species. All the other species we interbred with so far discovered have been Earthlings on our evolutionary line. It would be interesting to find that we also had physical relationships with Martians or Markabians. I don't think it's impossible, just can't imagine that any beings from a completely separately evolved planet would be having DNA similar enough to ours that we could breed. As far as I understand it would not be possible for a human to make babies with a dog or goat and according to theory many male Welshmen have tried female sheep, all without resulting sheeple.

I think that life outside of our planet is possible, I just don't think that aliens speak English with American accents, or look like anything seen on 1950s TV, or any other Earth Sci-fi series.

Look at how creatures evolved on distant Islands, so differently to those in the other areas, like marsupials in Australia, evolved differently from whatever creatures it might be related to in Eurasia, a duckbilled platypus would not be able to breed with a duck or a guinea-pig.

Many animals in this planet have a similar basic structure, a skeleton, a skull with two eyes two nostrils a mouth and so on, this would not need to be the case in a different planet with different mass, atmospheric pressure, chemistry and so on. We evolved because of the conditions on this little speck in a galaxy filled with very different planets.

We are similar to other primates, yet no known hybrid is recorded. We share a lot of DNA with other earth creatures and even with earth plants. Humans share almost all of our DNA with cats, cattle and mice
According to the idea, the hybrids would have been gestated artificially, in vitro, by the aliens, then, after a successful hybrid had been created, it would have been possible (so the idea goes) for normal interbreeding between the hybrids and Earthlings to occur.

It's a plausible explanation for a cover up, if humans are an inferior version of some alien race.

"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying." Arthur C. Clarke
 

La La Lou Lou

Well-known member
According to the idea, the hybrids would have been gestated artificially, in vitro, by the aliens, then, after a successful hybrid had been created, it would have been possible (so the idea goes) for normal interbreeding between the hybrids and Earthlings to occur.

It's a plausible explanation for a cover up, if humans are an inferior version of some alien race.

"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying." Arthur C. Clarke
It doesn't matter how big the test tube it must be very hard to cross an alfalfa with a fish, but as they're both made with earth genes that would be easier than mixing DNAs from two different planets.

It's way too woo woo but the sci fi book I vaguely remember reading suggested that an advanced culture ran around the universe planting the seeds of DNA in some unknown way programming for life seeded in a bacterium that went through a long drawn out evolution pre-planned ending up with almost the same life on all seeded planets. Then a few million billion or trillion years later they go back and if they haven't blown themselves up with nuclear weapons, they introduce themselves and shake hands. Sounds way too Hubbard, maybe it was on a Philadelphia lecture or Azimov or Clarke or something.
 

Riddick

I clap to no man
The idea is that the human race is a hybrid consisting of an advanced (genetically superior) extraterrestrial race, and the crude semi-humans that were already here.

Announcing this would destabilize society.
you are still in woo woo land.

 
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It doesn't matter how big the test tube it must be very hard to cross an alfalfa with a fish, but as they're both made with earth genes that would be easier than mixing DNAs from two different planets.

It's way too woo woo but the sci fi book I vaguely remember reading suggested that an advanced culture ran around the universe planting the seeds of DNA in some unknown way programming for life seeded in a bacterium that went through a long drawn out evolution pre-planned ending up with almost the same life on all seeded planets. Then a few million billion or trillion years later they go back and if they haven't blown themselves up with nuclear weapons, they introduce themselves and shake hands. Sounds way too Hubbard, maybe it was on a Philadelphia lecture or Azimov or Clarke or something.
I like the way you think. Spot on!

We actually never found the missing links that humans developed from Neanderthals, etc. Or how various creatures, like giraffes, who couldn’t possibly have physically evolved as they are somehow evolved. The Theory of Evolution is still just that - a theory. It has a lot of contradictory information for creatures that make it impossible for them.

I don’t have a better theory, though. The Biblical version is that we were created exactly as we are. That’s where the alien idea comes in for some, except, as you pointed out, that doesn’t work out logically, either. In fact, it doesn’t work at all.

I’d rather go with the alternate reality idea. Some creatures could never be other than the way they are now. What if there are warps in space-time, though? What if time isn’t actually linear at all? What if living organisms are distorted or altered when certain conditions are present, but not injured?
 

Helena Handbasket

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Shades of Zecharia Sitchin:

Zecharia Sitchin was an author of books proposing an explanation for human origins involving ancient astronauts. Sitchin attributed the creation of the ancient Sumerian culture to the Anunnaki, which he stated was a race of extraterrestrials from a planet beyond Neptune called Nibiru. WIKI

He was doing a book reading at a bookstore in Santa Monica, and I asked him during the audience Q and A what started him on his journey, and he replied - "in the Torah it says man is created in our (Gods) image - I asked "why is it plural?" and the rabbi said to ignore that." I didn't. I wanted to know why. So I learned to read Sumerian"

Mimsey
(Emphasis added above)

The Old Testament makes it quite clear that there is more than one god out there. It says "thou shall have no other gods before thee". In other words, there are other gods, just not any the ancients are allowed to worship.

But to create Man in the gods' image -- since worship is not part of it, is allowed.

However, I think too much emphasis is being placed on the difference between "Earthlings" and "the gods" (ancient astronauts?) People are people, and "they" are more like us than unalike -- the major difference being they had access to technology, like spaceships, that we didn't.

To say it again: OT powers require worship to seriously turn on.

Disclosure: I have not read any of Sitchin's books.

Helena
 

Helena Handbasket

Active member
Big report of 25 June finally released. As expected, it essentially says nothing.
You want something? I'll give you something. I've basically taken every conspiracy theory I could find and smashed them together.

It's time I reposted this anyway.

Helena



. . . . . . . S P R I G . L O R E

GALACTIC OVERPOPULATION

The most persistent problem this galaxy has ever faced is overpopulation and the resulting decrease in the quality of life. By "overpopulation" we don't mean biological population, of course. We mean spirit population.

When the body of a citizen dies, we want the spirit within to occupy a newborn's body with a minimum of fuss and bother, thus ensuring the eternally comfortable life we have all become accustomed to. This is not possible as long as the spirit population exceeds the biological population.

The solution is to dump our excess spirit population all in one place, and make sure they stay there. The place selected is Earth, a place most undesirable for other uses due to its role in the Six Year War. Earth is the third planet in a rather isolated solar system.

To make certain those sent to planet Earth stay there, an organization was created to ensure this, particularly when their spirits are freed from their bodies at biological death. Currently, this organization is headquartered at Tower Base on the planet Venus in the same system, and is currently known as the Second Planet Refresher Implant Group, or SPRIG.


WHAT IS RELIGION?

Religion is a form of superstition centered around the idea that a super being created everything, including the people who believe in it. The idea, "I exist, therefore I am in debt" is an effective method of assuring passive compliance to authority figures. A hierarchy of authority is created -- from the top levels of the SPRIG to families, where husbands are encouraged to become authority figures to their wives, and both parents, to their children. As long as Earthlings believe they are obeying the wishes of their Creator, they will continue to do as they are told.

Religions comes in different varieties, or "faiths". These are generally in conflict with each other, each believing that their own faith is the one "true" faith and the others are "false" and therefore inferior. As a result of these conflicts, they tend not to question their own authority figures.

The original faiths, or Churches, came to be as a direct result of SPRIG activities. Various malcontents broke off and founded new faiths, some anti-SPRIG in their fundamental nature. However, all of these came under SPRIG influence sooner or later -- generally just after the biological death of their founder. At this point, the faith is given a centralized command structure with SPRIG agents occupying the top positions.


THE LIFE CYCLE OF THE FAITHFUL

All faiths mark the birth of a newborn with a ceremony. From this point on, that person "belongs" to that faith and is expected to accept Church doctrine as it is taught. The faithful are expected to marry, and for many faiths, to produce large families. As one nears the end of their biological life, one is expected to look forward to the "afterlife", an "eternal reward" for following Church doctrine. As we will shall see, this "eternal reward" is neither eternal nor a reward, but a key part of keeping people from escaping planet Earth. After biological death, the spirit of the Earthling departs their biological body and comes to the Refresher Implant Center on Venus, believing it to be the site of the afterlife. Here a series of mind control actions take place, after which the person returns to Earth to begin a new lifetime in a new biological body.


EARTH TECHNOLOGY AND OVERPOPULATION

While the galactic strategy on overpopulation is to reduce the spiritual population (by removing the excess to planet Earth), Earth is encouraged to increase its biological population instead. The attendant problems of a too-large biological population -- famine, war, and poverty -- are considered acceptable. Movements to limit the (biological) population on Earth, or at least give people an opportunity to voluntarily limit their family sizes, are resisted and sabotaged.

One way of promoting population growth is to limit sex education to the point where it is ineffective. Earthlings are told that youths are supposed to learn from their parents, who are often too shy to teach them or think that sex is something that their older children will be interested in "years from now". As a result, young people are often reduced to experimentation, which frequently leads to unexpected pregnancies. Abortion is made difficult to come by and is actively discouraged by their religious teaching.

For many years technology was suppressed on planet Earth. By doing so, SPRIG control of the population was absolute. But technology on Earth has been allowed to rise during the last six centuries, allowing the population to rise with it. This has given the planet the additional capacity needed to absorb the galaxy's unwanted spiritual population. Unfortunately, there is a tradeoff: with scientific reason comes less of a need for religion, leading to a loss of SPRIG control among some groups. And some of this technology is capable of detecting SPRIG activities. Thus there is a need to maintain a delicate balance: enough technology to sustain the needed population growth, but not enough to detect and discredit the SPRIG. While Earth technology is not even close to the point of presenting a military threat, the danger is that the SPRIG would be ridiculed and ignored once discovered.


A BRIEF TOUR OF THE FAITHS

Thirty-two millennia ago, the group known as Hindus were given the idea that if they live their lives properly, they would reach Nirvana, an afterlife where everything is wonderful all the time and they would never again be troubled by the unpleasantries of biological life. If their lives were not so perfect, they would be sent back to Earth to try again. Their station in their new lifetime theoretically depended on whether they lived a generally "good" or "evil" life. This determination was to be made at the moment of death, where they would appear before a "cosmic judge". This cosmic judge is in reality what is now the New Arrival Interview department, which always sends individuals on to the Refresher Implant Center. Here, they are given their mind control, and sent back to Earth -- always.

At this point in time the Venus base had not been established. Remote and inaccessible locations on Earth such as mountaintops, caves, and polar zones were used.

Fifty-seven centuries ago, a second basic faith was created -- the Jews. This group was taught everybody had only one lifetime, and that their spiritual selves were created when their biological selves were. Of course, they were still consigned to the Refresher Implant Center at death, where they were given a different mind control "program" than the Hindus. The one-lifetime-only concept was part of the Jewish indoctrination -- and when this mind control was over, they would be sent back to planet Earth to begin their next lifetime.

The Greek Mythological faith was created thirty-five centuries ago. The major new concept here was to accentuate the negative -- that there was a "bad" afterlife, called Hades, that you went to if you lived an "evil" life, to suffer forever. That this suffering was to last "forever" was part of the indoctrination message, even though the mind control process itself always comes to an end.

Twenty centuries ago, the Venus base was established, and the Second Planet Refresher Implant Group assumed its current form. Jesus, a believer yet reformer, founded Christianity. Within days of Jesus's biological death St. Paul, or Saul of Tarsus, was already reorganizing Christianity along SPRIG policy lines. A plurality of fates -- known as Heaven (for the good), Hell (for the evil), and Purgatory (for the marginally evil) is part of this faith, and as we will see, is a key part of increasing the effectiveness of the mind control process.

Fourteen centuries ago, Islam came to be. It is very heavy with ritual and demands strict obedience to God. Violence as a way of preserving and expanding the membership of the faith is condoned, even praised. Those who die in service to the faith believe they will be sent immediately to Paradise, their version of the "good" afterlife.

Each of the faiths mentioned above represents an improvement in the effectiveness of the mind control. And, as was said, a multiplicity of faiths means an ongoing basic conflict which keeps the believers from questioning their leaders.


THE ORGANIZATION OF THE SPRIG

The SPRIG is divided into a hierarchy of departments. Many in the lower level departments are dupes, unaware of the organization and mission of the SPRIG, but simply believe they are acting in the service of their faith.


SPRIGCOT (Council Of They) God
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+ +++++SPRIGNAI (New Arrival Interview) St. Peter, etc.
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+++++SPRIGPED (Policy Enforcement Division)
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+ +++++SPRIGIVU (Interplantary Visitations Unit) Aliens
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+++++SPRIGNET (Network for Emotional Tampering) Holy Spirit
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+++++SPRIGWEN (Worldwide Enforcement Network) New World Order
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+++++SPRIGAPE (Agency for Policy Enforcement) Clergy, etc.
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+++++SPRIGDEF (Detention and Examination Facilities)
+ Mental Hospitals
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+++++SPRIGPAC (Population Assistance Centers)
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+++++++SPRIGPIC (Policy Instruction Centers)
+ + + Parochial Schools, etc.
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+++++++++SPRIGPRO (Periodic Restimulation Organizations)
+ + + Synagogues, Churches, etc.
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++++++++++SPRIGLAV (Loyal Affiliated Victims)
Fundamentalists, etc.


Each department is detailed below:

SPRIGCOT - COUNCIL OF THEY (God) - while the Council Of They certainly did not create the universe, by promoting the concept of God and then speaking for God, they in effect have become God -- in particular, they have taken God's authority for themselves. They are called the Council Of They because of the Earth custom of saying "they" are the cause of something, or that "they" won't let that happen, without having a clue as to who "they" really are.

SPRIGRIC - REFRESHER IMPLANT CENTER (Heaven) - this is where the mind control takes place. The message includes misleading information, commands, and substantial amounts of emotional content such as euphoria. The message is not the same for everyone; it varies mainly by the individual's faith and sex.

SPRIGSIS - SPECIAL IMPLANT SECTION (Hell) - those who perceive they've been bad are sent to this section, right next door to SPRIGRIC. The individual is caused to suffer ensuring their cooperation at a later point in time, when they are either sent on to SPRIGRIC, as explained below, or in some cases, conscripted as SPRIG low-level headquarters administrative staff.

SPRIGDIE - DIVISION Of INTERVIEW And ESCORTING - it is not automatically assured that people will come to the Refresher Implant Center when their life ends. This division is responsible for getting people to go there.

SPRIGICE - INDOCTRINATION CENTER ESCORTERS (Angels) - these are spirit beings, without a biological counterpart, that seek out the dead and dying and point the way to the "afterlife". (This is actually the second part of the chain. The first part is when a SPRIGAPE recites the Last Rites -- or an equivalent -- over the dying.)

SPRIGNAI - NEW ARRIVAL INTERVIEW (St. Peter, etc) - this is the "cosmic judge" or whatever one meets at the gates to the "afterlife". A major function is to separate people by faiths and present to each one the SPRIGNAI that matches their expectations -- so Christians see either Jesus or St. Peter, Hindus see the cosmic judge, and so on. Those whose biological bodies are rescuable from death by medical technology are sometimes given a choice to stay or return to Earth. Those who don't want the afterlife, or who feel they don't deserve a "reward", are given special handling. At this point it is determined which version of the mind control they will receive, based mainly on faith, sex, and their zodiac sign for the next lifetime. Once they are handed over to SPRIGRIC, there is no escape. Note: SPRIGNAI stands both for the department and for New Arrival Interviewer.

SPRIGPED - POLICY ENFORCEMENT DIVISION - their job is to keep Earth culture aligned with SPRIG policy. This is the largest SPRIG division.

SPRIGSTO - SPACE TRANSPORT OPERATIONS (UFO's) - provides a shuttle service between Earth, Venus, and other locations. While these operations are generally clandestine, shuttle vehicles have been detected at times by various Earthlings.

SPRIGIVU - INTERPLANETARY VISITATIONS UNIT (Aliens) - their job is to contact small numbers of Earth people, and to put on a show for them which doesn't quite make sense. These Earthlings then go around spreading stories of abductions in flying saucers, making the whole subject of UFO's look ridiculous, thereby covering for the times SPRIGSTO activity was noted.

SPRIGNET - NETWORK For EMOTIONAL TAMPERING (Holy Spirit) - these invisible, enslaved, bodyless spirits monitor Earthlings and report on their activities to a central bureau. They are on the watch, particularly, for anti-SPRIG activities and are capable of sending back directives (in the form of "suggestions") and can manipulate their targets emotionally. Their main job is to counter organized opposition to the SPRIG.

SPRIGWEN - WORLDWIDE ENFORCEMENT NETWORK (New World Order) - this division consists of a number of secular and religious groups in positions of power here on Earth, with the main base on the religious side being Vatican City. This is also the main site of the original division of Christianity, the Catholics. Other faiths and the major governments and institutions (such as banks) are connected together through a series of secret ties.

SPRIGAPE - AGENCY For POLICY ENFORCEMENT (Clergy, etc.) - this includes people who devote their lives to the service of their faiths, such as priests, nuns, ministers, rabbis, and muftis. They are believers who hope for the "good" afterlife, and carry out SPRIG policy in the belief that doing so will help them and others get there. In addition, this includes people who can and do occupy key leadership positions in non-religious groups, such as governments, banks, and essential industries, motivated by personal gain and notoriety. Together, they forward SPRIG policies. Note: SPRIGAPE also stands for SPRIG _Agent_ for Policy Enforcement.

SPRIGDEF - DETENTION And EXAMINATION FACILITIES (Mental Hospitals) - these are psychiatric hospitals that are either operated by the SPRIG directly or have major influence from the SPRIG. They are useful for confining and discrediting those who might expose the SPRIG for what it is, and for punishing enemies. SPRIG policies dominate the field of psychiatry.

SPRIGMIB - MEN IN BLACK (Goons) - far from the alien-aware good guys in the movie by the same name, the real Men In Black go after ordinary Earth people who know (and threaten to reveal) the truth. Their main tool is intimidation, but will silence the opposition by whatever means necessary.

SPRIGPAC - POPULATION ASSISTANCE CENTERS (Rescue Missions) - these are SPRIG charitable organizations designed to help the extremely poor. SPRIG policy is to help those who are in danger of dying from their poverty, so as to keep the biological population of planet Earth from being reduced. Those who rise above this minimum level are NOT helped any further. Other charities on planet Earth are expected to follow the SPRIG example, by helping only the lowest of the low, then abandoning them when they reach a point of minimum self-sufficiency. Even the United Nations, a pan-Earth organization with the potential to unify Earth against the SPRIG, has a population assistance function through it's United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF).

SPRIGPIC - POLICY INSTRUCTION CENTERS (Parochial Schools, etc.) - these are SPRIG groups that teach pro-SPRIG viewpoints for the purpose of influencing Earth culture. These groups include parochial schools, religious bookstores, and various Church-sponsored counseling organizations.

SPRIGPRO - PERIODIC RESTIMULATION ORGANIZATIONS (Synagogues, Churches, etc) - these are synagogues, churches, mosques, and other gathering places where the faithful are given a message similar to the mind control they got earlier. While no formal mind control takes place here, it reinforces the SPRIGRIC message.

SPRIGLAV - LOYAL AFFILIATED VICTIMS (Fundamentalists) - these are the serious believers in the SPRIG philosophy, eager to do everything they are instructed to, and who are fervently hopeful for a better life and afterlife. They are the end product of the process; those who would not leave Earth if an opportunity did present itself.


ABOUT HELL AND SATANISM

Those Christians who do not believe they've lead good lives -- or don't want to go to Heaven -- are sent to "Hell" instead. Hell, or SPRIGSIS, is next door to Heaven, or SPRIGRIC. In Hell, special mind control causes the person to suffer. The goal is to get them to wish they were in Heaven instead. Then they are told they are not in Hell, they're in Purgatory, and Heaven is the next stop. Now they are looking forward to Heaven, which is the most important part of the mind control process -- getting people to want to go there. Actually, whether one has been good or bad is of no consequence when it comes to qualifying for the good afterlife -- for the only real sin is not wanting to go to Heaven. Other faiths have similar concepts.

In some cases, those who are released from SPRIGSIS are conscripted to become low-level administrators in SPRIG headquarters (they have to get their clerks from somewhere!)

Satanism was not always associated with evil the way it is today -- originally it was simply an anti-SPRIG group. Like all other faiths not created by the SPRIG, it was infiltrated and taken over by them. Only later on was it branded a "worship of evil" faith. As Satanists arrive at SPRIGNAI they see exactly what they expect to see -- the devil.


SEX ON PLANET EARTH

By normal galactic standards, Earth is a sex-crazed planet. When Earthlings "fall in love", the mind control they received causes a euphoric feeling to kick in. This reinforces their sexual attraction for each other. This euphoria, which reaches a peak during orgasm, is often described as "heavenly" -- which is completely accurate as the source of it is SPRIGRIC.

As stated before, sex education is functionally nonexistent, and access to birth control (including abortion) is spotty at best. Young couples (married and unmarried) are anxious to have at it first, and ask questions later. Often they find themselves in the midst of starting a family before they fully understand the process, particularly in areas where there is poverty and minimal education.

While premarital sex is officially discouraged, an illegitimate child increases the biological population just as much as a legitimate one. Legitimate pregnancies are preferable in that an unmarried woman is more likely to choose an abortion, after realizing the alternative is single parenthood. So unmarried pregnant women are encouraged to get married right away, and unmarried NON-pregnant women are told to "save it for their future husbands" -- so by the time they CAN get pregnant, pregnancy is more of a workable option.

To increase their sexual attraction to each other, men and women are given different versions of the mind control (in addition to the differences between the faiths). Women are image concious, trying to achieve the ideal "look", and men are oriented to responding to that image. Both men and women are given the idea that women are inferior to men -- to the point where women are restricted from the more demanding forms of paid employment -- so they have plenty of talent and energy left over for "the important job of motherhood".

The feminine image actually DOES make women less powerful in some ways -- for example, restrictive clothing that limits free movement, and "beauty rituals" that consume time and energy.

As a result, most leadership roles on planet Earth are occupied by men, which means reproductive rights issues (specifically, the right to choose to NOT reproduce) are not taken seriously.

Earthlings are encouraged to look at children as the "natural" result of the sexual union, with those believing that children are undesirable or merely optional being treated as if something's wrong with them. Such are expected to not speak their views, while those who are eager to raise families talk on and on about doing so.

Part of the mind control is an adoring attraction to children -- strongest for newborns. This keeps parents from abandoning their children during the critical period of helplessness, and as the child becomes more and more capable of being self-sustaining, or at least capable of demanding sustenance from others, this adoring attraction fades in proportion.

While the industrialized nations of planet Earth have limited their fertility rate, the impoverished nations produce children far faster than their societies can accommodate. A portion of this excess relocates to the industrialized nations, as these nations export their technology in trade. Therefore, both groups can have population growth -- the "haves" help feed the "have-nots", and the "have-nots" provide ample population for all of Earth.


MAJOR SPRIG POLICIES

Below are the major SPRIG policies for Earthlings to follow. While not all Earthlings are interested in doing these things, a sufficient number of them do so, and so keep Earth a place where the unwanted galactic population can be dumped.

Any kind of sexual activity that does NOT result in children is vilified, including masturbation, withdrawal, homosexuality, and sex with objects or animals. Sex outside of marriage is also forbidden, but if a pregnancy results, the child must be protected in spite of all inconvenience or embarrassment.

Contraception and abortion are forbidden.

While access to abortion and contraception may be restricted, help for those with impaired fertility never is.

The only sexual options that do not result in children that ARE officially condoned are those that are impractical -- abstinence (which few are interested in) and the rhythm method of contraception (which doesn't work).

Children must be given a priority. After children, those that care for children are given priority.

Women are to be given special breaks, such as maternity leave, that men don't have access to. (Employers, aware of this bias, will then prefer men for the power jobs they have available, particularly where a major training investment in a person is necessary for them to become productive.)

Employers must not pay wages that are at or below the starvation level.

Immigration TO wealthier nations is not to be restricted.

Attend the church of your choice once a week.

Be true to your spouse.

Obey authority figures. If they say, don't ask questions, then don't.

Those that want to help others should devote their time and money to population assistance type programs, where only the most destitute and helpless are given just enough help to barely get by.

Don't waste food.

Resist going to war (even while SPRIG policy encourages conflicts).

Don't support military research. Support the destruction of existing weapons stockpiles.

Space research programs, particularly manned missions, are NOT a priority. There is no life on other planets.


SUMMARY

Earthlings are ignorant of the true nature of things. Many believe in just one lifetime, most believe in some sort of afterlife, and few realize they are deliberately being quarantined on planet Earth, where unrestricted population growth makes life a lot less pleasant than on most other planets.

The actual number of galactic citizens involved in this containment process is rather small. The bulk of those working for the SPRIG are Earthling dupes -- a house of cards, but one that has endured for millenia. A superstitious explanation for the nature of the world was given to Earthlings, and they have accepted it and eagerly use it to help seal their own fate.

Spiritual life cannot be destroyed -- in spite of many (spirit) population control measures taken over the years. But by concentrating the excess all in one place, on planet Earth, the rest of the galaxy can look forward to a relatively free and uncluttered existence.
 

La La Lou Lou

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HH, well that was along post!

I don't see eye to eye with some of your ideas but I do really admire the amount of thought you put into this.
If we were to develop a way to lengthen life, to double the amount of years we could be here, with full physical and mental capacity how would that work with the sex compulsion? Mind you we did discover the pill, so maybe improved birth control would be easier to handle things with people reproductively able for 200 years.
 

Zertel

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HH, well that was along post!

I don't see eye to eye with some of your ideas but I do really admire the amount of thought you put into this.
If we were to develop a way to lengthen life, to double the amount of years we could be here, with full physical and mental capacity how would that work with the sex compulsion? Mind you we did discover the pill, so maybe improved birth control would be easier to handle things with people reproductively able for 200 years.
It's a parody of scn and creative writing.

Earth population would maximize at about 11 billion. At that point there would only be enough fertile females to replace the number of people dying. There have been YouTube videos or TED talks demonstrating this but I don't feel like looking for them.
 
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mimsey borogrove

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(Emphasis added above)

The Old Testament makes it quite clear that there is more than one god out there. It says "thou shall have no other gods before thee". In other words, there are other gods, just not any the ancients are allowed to worship.

But to create Man in the gods' image -- since worship is not part of it, is allowed.

However, I think too much emphasis is being placed on the difference between "Earthlings" and "the gods" (ancient astronauts?) People are people, and "they" are more like us than unalike -- the major difference being they had access to technology, like spaceships, that we didn't.

To say it again: OT powers require worship to seriously turn on.

Disclosure: I have not read any of Sitchin's books.

Helena
In a nutshell, he claims the Sumerian texts discuss a 12th planet, Niberu in an eccentric orbit, that goes out beyond Pluto, and then comes inward, passes our planet, goes around the sun then goes outbound. The people on the planet needed our minerals, so they did genetic engineering to the Cro-Magnon combined with their own DNA to create homo sapiens, a slave race, to mine the minerals but things went wrong.

From Wiki:

Similar to earlier authors such as Immanuel Velikovsky and Erich von Däniken, Sitchin advocated hypotheses in which extraterrestrial events supposedly played a significant role in ancient human history.

According to Sitchin's interpretation of Mesopotamian iconography and symbolism, outlined in his 1976 book The 12th Planet and its sequels, there is an undiscovered planet beyond Neptune that follows a long, elliptical orbit, reaching the solar system roughly every 3,600 years.[5] This planet is called Nibiru (although Jupiter was the planet associated with the god Marduk in Babylonian cosmology).[6] According to Sitchin, Nibiru (whose name was replaced with MARDUK in original legends by the Babylonian ruler of the same name in an attempt to co-opt the creation for himself) collided catastrophically with Tiamat (a goddess in the Babylonian creation myth the Enûma Eliš), which he considers to be another planet once located between Mars and Jupiter. This collision supposedly formed the planet Earth, the asteroid belt, and the comets. Sitchin states that when struck by one of planet Nibiru's moons, Tiamat split in two, and then on a second pass Nibiru itself struck the broken fragments and one half of Tiamat became the asteroid belt. The second half, struck again by one of Nibiru's moons, was pushed into a new orbit and became today's planet Earth. Sitchin also speculated that Pluto (which he identifies as both Gaga and Isimud) was originally a satellite of Saturn but Nibiru's gravity perturbed it, sending it to the outer Solar System and giving the body its peculiar orbital path, intersecting the orbit of Neptune.[7]

According to Sitchin, Nibiru (called "the twelfth planet" because, Sitchin claimed, the Sumerians' gods-given conception of the Solar System counted all eight planets, plus Pluto, the Sun and the Moon) was the home of a technologically advanced human-like extraterrestrial race called the Anunnaki in Sumerian myth, who Sitchin states are called the Nephilim in Genesis. He wrote that they evolved after Nibiru entered the inner solar system, and they first arrived on Earth probably 450,000 years ago, looking for minerals, especially gold, which they found and mined in Africa. Sitchin states that these "gods" were the rank-and-file workers of the colonial expedition to Earth from planet Nibiru.

According to Sitchin, Enki (the Sumerian god of water and human culture) suggested that to relieve the Anunnaki, who had mutinied over their dissatisfaction with their working conditions, that primitive workers (Homo sapiens) be created by genetic engineering as slaves to replace them in the gold mines by crossing extraterrestrial genes with those of Homo erectus.[8][9] According to Sitchin, ancient inscriptions report that the human civilization in Sumer, Mesopotamia, was set up under the guidance of these "gods", and human kingship was inaugurated to provide intermediaries between mankind and the Anunnaki (creating the "divine right of kings" doctrine). Sitchin believes that fallout from nuclear weapons, used during a war between factions of the extraterrestrials, is the "evil wind" described in the Lament for Ur that destroyed Ur around 2000 BC. Sitchin states the exact year is 2024 BC.[10] Sitchin says that his research coincides with many biblical texts, and that biblical texts come originally from Sumerian writings.
 
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