HIGH-LEVEL SCIENTOLOGIST INFILTRATES CLAY CLARK’S REAWAKEN AMERICA TOUR

[ISNOINews]

HIGH-LEVEL SCIENTOLOGIST INFILTRATES CLAY CLARK’S REAWAKEN AMERICA TOUR

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Tru News: SCIENTOLOGIST INFILTRATES CLAY CLARK’S REAWAKEN AMERICA TOUR

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TruNews with Rick Wiles, Real News, Latest News, Christian News


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Today on TruNews, a popular conference that is attracting lots of Trump voters and Evangelical Christians is the ReAwaken America tour. The organizer is Clay Clark, an Oklahoma business trainer who started his career as an event planner. The tour is sponsored by Charisma magazine. The ReAwaken America tour events are typically held in churches, such as John Hagee’s Cornerstone Church in San Antonio TX, or Rodney Howard Browne’s River Church in Tampa Florida.

The events are designed to look, sound, and feel like a hybrid religious revival meeting, political rally, and business motivation meeting. TruNews has learned that a high-level Scientologist is among the speakers touring the USA with Clay Clark.

Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart. Airdate 11/14/2021

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[TheSneakster]

HIGH-LEVEL SCIENTOLOGIST INFILTRATES CLAY CLARK’S REAWAKEN AMERICA TOUR

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Tru News: SCIENTOLOGIST INFILTRATES CLAY CLARK’S REAWAKEN AMERICA TOUR

Video with full story at link below.


TruNews with Rick Wiles, Real News, Latest News, Christian News


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TruNews has learned that a high-level Scientologist is among the speakers touring the USA with Clay Clark.

Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart. Airdate 11/14/2021

OK, so we have a couple of Radical Evangelical Christian Right talking heads speculating and complaining about Franklin Graham (Rev. Billy Graham's son) associating with Scientologist Greta Van Susteren (a celebrity public member, who certainly isn't "high level" in the implied sense of her being a International Management staff member).


AFAICT, this is a non-story.

 

[Type4_PTS]

HIGH-LEVEL SCIENTOLOGIST INFILTRATES CLAY CLARK’S REAWAKEN AMERICA TOUR

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Tru News: SCIENTOLOGIST INFILTRATES CLAY CLARK’S REAWAKEN AMERICA TOUR

Video with full story at link below.


TruNews with Rick Wiles, Real News, Latest News, Christian News


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Today on TruNews, a popular conference that is attracting lots of Trump voters and Evangelical Christians is the ReAwaken America tour. The organizer is Clay Clark, an Oklahoma business trainer who started his career as an event planner. The tour is sponsored by Charisma magazine. The ReAwaken America tour events are typically held in churches, such as John Hagee’s Cornerstone Church in San Antonio TX, or Rodney Howard Browne’s River Church in Tampa Florida.

The events are designed to look, sound, and feel like a hybrid religious revival meeting, political rally, and business motivation meeting. TruNews has learned that a high-level Scientologist is among the speakers touring the USA with Clay Clark.

Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart. Airdate 11/14/2021

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I actually attended one of these events (the Health & Freedom event in Tampa, Florida) that these guys spoke about so I watched the video as I was curious as to what they had to say.

It wasn't just about Scientologist (and human rights attorney) Leigh Dundas, which is what the headline seems to imply. They hardly spoke about her at all for the first hour. These were some of the people and topics covered:

1) Scientologist Greta Van Susteran and her husband John P. Coale's relationship with Franklin Graham. Graham personally escorted the both of them up to the front at his father's (Billy Graham)) funeral or memorial service. And there was concern that Graham may have been converted into a Scientologist.

2) Leah Remini was quoted on the subject of Scientology having the intention of taking over the government.

3) Scientologist Joy Villa was discussed and her infiltration of the MAGA movement, also Scientologist Greg Mitchell as well who is a Washington D.C. lobbyist who lobbies for CoS and George Soros.

4) At around the 45:30 mark of the video, a story from Tony Ortega is brought up about Scientology taking an anti-vax position and utilizing it to infiltrate these movements. (I didn't read the story so not sure exactly what he said)

The position that Rick Wiles and Doc Burkhart take is that these events took place in a Christian church and that anyone who gets up on the stage to speak should be a "born again bible believing saint". One of them actually used that phrase. They took issue with a number of things about how these events were conducted in a church. That a Scientologist spoke from the stage and toured with these people seemed to bother them the most. Not because of the positions she took on vaccines. Doc Burkhart himself acknowledged in this video that he is anti-vaccine, particularly in regard to the covid vaccines, They believe that the intention of Leigh Dundas behind what she is saying is to infiltrate the anti-vax movement, just as the intent of Joy Villa is to infiltrate the MAGA movement. They showed a quote from Hubbard I believe which made them believe that.

They showed a clip of Dundas at the Jan 6th event in Washington D.C. speaking there. One of the hosts said something like "she is saying all the right things..." They liked what she was saying. But they added that she is not coming from a place of patriotism. She's there to infiltrate the movement.

I don't agree with them that everything all Scientologists do as activists is necessarily done for the purpose of infiltrating various organizations. It's possible that they genuinely support a particular cause and that's what motivates them. Given Hubbard's writings, it certainly is wise to suspect them of having ulterior motives, but it's wrong to just assume that they do, which Burkhart and Wiles clearly are guilty of. I cannot speak to what the intention of Leigh Dundas is or if she's acting on behalf of the CoS but she doesn't pretend to be a Christian as Joy Villa does.

Rick Wiles indicated that if Clay Clark doesn't remove Leigh Dundas from the tour that he is going to "write him off".

 

[ISNOINews]

OK, so we have a couple of Radical Evangelical Christian Right talking heads speculating and complaining about Franklin Graham (Rev. Billy Graham's son) associating with Scientologist Greta Van Susteren (a celebrity public member, who certainly isn't "high level" in the implied sense of her being a International Management staff member).


AFAICT, this is a non-story.

See the post by Type4_PTS immediately above.

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[Type4_PTS]

OK, so we have a couple of Radical Evangelical Christian Right talking heads speculating and complaining about Franklin Graham (Rev. Billy Graham's son) associating with Scientologist Greta Van Susteren (a celebrity public member, who certainly isn't "high level" in the implied sense of her being a International Management staff member).


AFAICT, this is a non-story.

Their concerns included that Scientologists wanted to infiltrate the government. They didn't IMO imply that Van Susteren is an International Management staff member nor did they mention international management even once throughout the entire video.

CoS has throughout its history in recent decades used public Scientologists, especially celebrities, to influence what happens in governments.
And Van Susteren's husband IS very close to Trump and is representing him in some lawsuits.

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[ISNOINews]

4) At around the 45:30 mark of the video, a story from Tony Ortega is brought up about Scientology taking an anti-vax position and utilizing it to infiltrate these movements. (I didn't read the story so not sure exactly what he said)

There was no such Tony Ortega story. The Church of Scientology has not officially or publicly taken an anti-vax position, though numerous individual Scientologists have. Rick Wiles and Doc Burkhart fail to recognize the distinction between the Church of Scientology as an organization, and individual (albeit numerous) Scientologists.

Also, thank you very much for summarizing the video. I had meant to, but hadn't had time. Now I don't have to. Again, thanks.

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[TheSneakster]

Their concerns included that Scientologists wanted to infiltrate the government.

Uh-huh. These two people have neither firsthand experienced nor any new insider reports to back that up, so they are just repeating and speculating upon an often-repeated anti-Scientology critic PR message.

They didn't IMO imply that Van Susteren is an International Management staff member....

The label "high-level Scientologist" would surely imply that to their largely uninformed and poorly educated Trumpist audience.

In any case, I have diligently searched on the Internet for any confirmation that Greta Van Susteren ever spoke at one of these Reawaken America pseudo-religious church rallies. I was specifically hoping to find any video or transcript of her speech. Oddly enough, no evidence of her involvement in any of these events was found, not even on sponsor Charisma magazine's site.

Given the exact wording ("TruNews has learned ...") with source attribution omitted, it seems highly likely these two TruNews people have no firsthand knowledge of Greta Van Susteren's alleged participation and they are just forwarding a rumor somebody successfully planted with them.

If you manage to turn up any documentation supporting the claim, by all means make it available on this thread, please.

 

[Type4_PTS]

Uh-huh. These two people have neither firsthand experienced nor any new insider reports to back that up, so they are just repeating and speculating upon an often-repeated anti-Scientology critic PR message.

The CoS has a long documented history of infiltrating government agencies, 136 of them alone just during Operation Snow White. And there are Scientology "scriptures" that deal with taking over and controlling governments. Characterizing their concerns as "anti-Scientology critic PR" is absolutely absurd.

“Once the world is Clear — a nation, a state, a city or a village — the Scientology organization in the area becomes its government! And once this has taken place the only policy accepted as valid is Scientology policy.”
-L. Ron Hubbard, taped lecture 9 January 1962, “Future Org Trends”


Bring the government and hostile philosophies or societies into a state of complete compliance with the goals of Scientology. This is done by high level ability to control and in its absence by low level ability to overwhelm. Introvert such agencies. Control such agencies. Scientology is the only game on Earth where everybody wins. There is no overt [sin] in bringing good order.
-Hubbard, HCO Policy Letter of 15 August 1960, Department of Government Affairs

The label "high-level Scientologist" would surely imply that to their largely uninformed and poorly educated Trumpist audience.

I didn't take it that way at all. And I know first hand that non-staff members have been used by OSA to infiltrate governments and/or safepoint government officials. Celebrities like Greta Van Susteren are perfect for that type of an operation because they often have access to people in power.

When I worked at Social Coordination in the late 80's John Travolta did programs he was given by one of our execs (a Sea Org member) where he met with President Reagan and Nancy Reagan multiple times. He wasn't our staff member but did do things on our behalf.

In any case, I have diligently searched on the Internet for any confirmation that Greta Van Susteren ever spoke at one of these Reawaken America pseudo-religious church rallies. I was specifically hoping to find any video or transcript of her speech. Oddly enough, no evidence of her involvement in any of these events was found, not even on sponsor Charisma magazine's site.

I watched the entire video. There was no claim made that she ever spoke at one of these events. From what I recall, their primary concern with Van Susteren and her husband was their relationship with Franklin Graham, and their fear that they converted him to Scientology.

 

[Type4_PTS]

Here's a thread that Karen just created which is very much related to this one:

New upload: I discuss why and how Scientology has worked so hard to infiltrate Christian and Republican groups:

https://exscn2.net/threads/new-upload-i-discuss-why-and-how-scientology-has-worked-so-hard-to-infiltrate-christian-and-republican-groups.4076/#post-112815

 

[TheSneakster]

I watched the entire video. There was no claim made that she ever spoke at one of these events. From what I recall, their primary concern with Van Susteren and her husband was their relationship with Franklin Graham, and their fear that they converted him to Scientology.

OK, I have been reviewing the entire video. You are correct and I was mistaken.

The person they actually named as having "infiltrated" Clay Clarks's Reawaken America tour is public C of S member and very loud anti-vaxxer attorney Leigh Dundas. Her name appears on the featured tour speaker list.

Their major concern with Dundas seems to be that she is a Scientologist, not a Christian; but - according to them - nobody who attends these events is being told that.

 

[Type4_PTS]

OK, I have been reviewing the entire video. You are correct and I was mistaken.

The person they actually named as having "infiltrated" Clay Clarks's Reawaken America tour is public C of S member and very loud anti-vaxxer attorney Leigh Dundas. Her name appears on the featured tour speaker list.

Yeah, they absolutely do believe Leigh Dundas's intent was to infiltrate the organization. And her participation in the event seemed to bother them more than anything else, especially because she is a Scientologist and was in a Christian church, speaking from the stage.

Again, as I mentioned above, I have no idea as to what her real intent is or whether she has an ulterior motive. I've not seen any sign of it but I do believe that Scientologists are looking to form alliances with Christian organizations as Aaron describes in this video I posted below. Whether that's part of her motivation I don't know. The event I attended did seem to have mostly Christian people in attendance. I was surprised to see that. When Leigh Dundas spoke she was very well received by the audience.

In this video clip below Aaron plays a short clip from a meeting in Clearwater, I believe with the Downtown Development Board. One of the Scientologists on the board mentioned that he is a Christian and that most Scientologists are Christian. That is an extremely dishonest statement to make and is a sign that CoS is doing some kind of disinformation campaign for their own reasons. I believe Aaron nailed it in what he describes in this video.

 

[Veda]

Yeah, they absolutely do believe Leigh Dundas's intent was to infiltrate the organization. And her participation in the event seemed to bother them more than anything else, especially because she is a Scientologist and was in a Christian church, speaking from the stage.

Again, as I mentioned above, I have no idea as to what her real intent is or whether she has an ulterior motive. I've not seen any sign of it but I do believe that Scientologists are looking to form alliances with Christian organizations as Aaron describes in this video I posted below. Whether that's part of her motivation I don't know. The event I attended did seem to have mostly Christian people in attendance. I was surprised to see that. When Leigh Dundas spoke she was very well received by the audience.

In this video clip below Aaron plays a short clip from a meeting in Clearwater, I believe with the Downtown Development Board. One of the Scientologists on the board mentioned that he is a Christian and that most Scientologists are Christian. That is an extremely dishonest statement to make and is a sign that CoS is doing some kind of disinformation campaign for their own reasons. I believe Aaron nailed it in what he describes in this video.

Yes, Aaron sums it up nicely.

As far back as the 1950s. Hubbard wrote of deceiving traditional religious groups to Scientology Inc.'s advantage. And then there's his instruction of infiltrating groups generally.

I recall some murmurings in Scientology Inc., during the 1970s, about an alliance with the Mormonism.

Someone had the dream of gradually bringing the entire Mormon organization, and its money and membership, into Scientology. Imagine Mormons doing "Book One" (no past lives) Dianetics, doing TRs, doing Admin courses, the SP/PTS course (or its equivalent at the time), and perhaps being Security Checked and learning Security Checking, and then (having spent ample money in Scientology with, perhaps, the Chief Mormon - "the President and Prophet" - getting his cut as the FSM) some Mormons would go no further, but a large portion (the non-"DBs") would continue "up the Bridge," and be phased into becoming full Scientology Inc. Scientologists. That was a plan at one time, but it didn't come to fruition.

It fell by the wayside, along with the plan to convert Fidel Castro to Scientology, and thus Cuba.

There was a fellow who wanted to establish a working alliance between Scientology Inc. and Lyndon LaRouche's organization, but the LaRouche people, who saw Scientology Inc. as an MK-Ultra (CIA) project, were not interested.

There were (mostly behind the scenes) strategic friendships and alliances. Other cults, such as the Unification Church (the Moonies), Hare Krishna, and Jim Jones' People's temple, had the same or similar difficulties with governments and outsiders.

It was not uncommon for cult apologists to work for many cults, for example, J. Gordon Melton - who originated the acronym "NRM" for "New Religious Movement," as a substitute for "cult" - worked not only for Scientology Inc., but for the Japanese poison gas cult, Aum Shinrikyo, and the American pedophile cult, Children of God, and others.

Link to theScientology & Jim Jones thread.

Jim Jones speaking, while guarded by Nation of Islam Fruit of Islam security.

Then, one day, there came along with Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam.

Louis Farrakhan at Scientology Inc.'s Celebrity Center

And Scientology Inc. was ready for them. After all, the plan had been there for years, and the "LRH Intention" also. These weren't Christians, and they didn't have the money of the Mormons, but they would still be useful to Scientology Inc., if manged properly.

The big catch, however, at least in the United States, remained Christianity.

Hubbard had expressed his hostility towards Christianity on many occasions, and desired its eradication and replacement with Scientology. But that was a bold dream, and it would take time, and, as they say in Scientology, many gradient steps.

Hubbard's Magic(k)al partner during the 1946 Babalon (sic) Working to, ultimately, produce a "non human child" (some think the "non human child" is Scientology), was Jack Parsons who called himself Belarion Antichrist, and pledged himself to the destruction, and replacing, of Christianity.

Parsons was a disciple of Aleister Crowley, the self proclaimed Beast 666.

Hubbard imitated Crowley's habit of photographing himself
in many poses and expressions.

And as with Crowley, the photographs were not all displayed,
but were preserved, and used by his followers after his death.

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Hubbard spoke affectionately of Crowley while lecturing during late 1952, but later, recognizing Crowley as a potential public relations liability - as Hubbard activated what he called the "religion angle" in late 1953 and 1954, and sought to make Scientology a "Church" - went quiet on the topic.

During the late 1952 lectures, Hubbard actually recommended a book by Crowley. He called the book The Master Therion, although its title was Magick in Theory and Practice.

Quoting from Magick in Theory and Practice:

"The whole and sole object of all Magical training is to become free from every kind of limitation."

Crowley added a 'k" to the word magic to separate his version of magic from other versions which, according to him, had attracted "weaklings" and "dilettantes."

Quoting Hubbard, from his late 1952 lectures:

"Our whole activity tends to make an individual completely independent of any limitation... Old Aleister Crowley had some interesting things to say about this. He wrote The Book of the Law."

I first encountered The Book of the Law, in 1978, while browsing in a small shop in Manhattan that sold occult literature and Voodoo paraphernalia. It caught my attention as its color was identical to the Scientology Red (Technical) Volumes - I had recently purchased a set of the first edition of the Red Volumes at the New York Scientology Org.

The Introduction of The Book of The Law - an introduction which is absent from copies available on the Internet - contained surprising similarities to Scientology, so I purchased a copy.​

During the same 1952 lecture series, Hubbard made many references to Crowley and related subjects, such as:

"The magical cults of the 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th centuries in the Middle East were fascinating. The only modern work that has anything to do with them is a trifle wild in spots, but is a fascinating work in itself, and that is the work of Aleister Crowley - the late Aleister Crowley - my very good friend... He signed himself 'the Beast,' mark of the Beast 666..."

Link to the Is Scientology Satanic? thread.

But I digress...

A while back, journalist, videographer, and Clearwater Council person, Mark Bunker, spoke before the Clearwater Downtown Development Board, which prompted a bizarre reaction from Board member, and Scientology Inc. OT 8, Ray Cassano.

Cassano blurted out, "I am a Scientologist, also a Christian. Most Scientologists are Christians," in an apparent attempt to reassure the "wogs." ("Wog" is an old racial slur used by the colonial British, and is the Scientology term for non Scientologists.)

Link to the "Most Scientologists are Christians" thread

"The man on the cross. There was no Christ." L. Ron Hubbard, 1968

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"The preclear will be found to be intensely aberrated who has sworn allegiance to some infinite beingness..."

L. Ron Hubbard, from the 1953 book Scientology 8-8008


Will Scientology Inc., and the Scientology supermen: the Homo Novis, Clears, and Operating Thetans, be able to trick enough Christians - who it regards as "Degraded Beings" or, worse, inherently inferior entities or "minions"?

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[Chuck J.]

I actually attended one of these events (the Health & Freedom event in Tampa, Florida) that these guys spoke about so I watched the video as I was curious as to what they had to say.

It wasn't just about Scientologist (and human rights attorney) Leigh Dundas, which is what the headline seems to imply. They hardly spoke about her at all for the first hour. These were some of the people and topics covered:

1) Scientologist Greta Van Susteran and her husband John P. Coale's relationship with Franklin Graham. Graham personally escorted the both of them up to the front at his father's (Billy Graham)) funeral or memorial service. And there was concern that Graham may have been converted into a Scientologist.

2) Leah Remini was quoted on the subject of Scientology having the intention of taking over the government.

3) Scientologist Joy Villa was discussed and her infiltration of the MAGA movement, also Scientologist Greg Mitchell as well who is a Washington D.C. lobbyist who lobbies for CoS and George Soros.

4) At around the 45:30 mark of the video, a story from Tony Ortega is brought up about Scientology taking an anti-vax position and utilizing it to infiltrate these movements. (I didn't read the story so not sure exactly what he said)

The position that Rick Wiles and Doc Burkhart take is that these events took place in a Christian church and that anyone who gets up on the stage to speak should be a "born again bible believing saint". One of them actually used that phrase. They took issue with a number of things about how these events were conducted in a church. That a Scientologist spoke from the stage and toured with these people seemed to bother them the most. Not because of the positions she took on vaccines. Doc Burkhart himself acknowledged in this video that he is anti-vaccine, particularly in regard to the covid vaccines, They believe that the intention of Leigh Dundas behind what she is saying is to infiltrate the anti-vax movement, just as the intent of Joy Villa is to infiltrate the MAGA movement. They showed a quote from Hubbard I believe which made them believe that.

They showed a clip of Dundas at the Jan 6th event in Washington D.C. speaking there. One of the hosts said something like "she is saying all the right things..." They liked what she was saying. But they added that she is not coming from a place of patriotism. She's there to infiltrate the movement.

I don't agree with them that everything all Scientologists do as activists is necessarily done for the purpose of infiltrating various organizations. It's possible that they genuinely support a particular cause and that's what motivates them. Given Hubbard's writings, it certainly is wise to suspect them of having ulterior motives, but it's wrong to just assume that they do, which Burkhart and Wiles clearly are guilty of. I cannot speak to what the intention of Leigh Dundas is or if she's acting on behalf of the CoS but she doesn't pretend to be a Christian as Joy Villa does.

Rick Wiles indicated that if Clay Clark doesn't remove Leigh Dundas from the tour that he is going to "write him off".

"...it certainly is wise to suspect them of having ulterior motives, but it's wrong to just assume that they do,"

Given the documented history of $cientology shenanigans that position is INCREDIBLY gracious of you.
I hold a differing opinion.

 

[Type4_PTS]

"...it certainly is wise to suspect them of having ulterior motives, but it's wrong to just assume that they do,"

Given the documented history of $cientology shenanigans that position is INCREDIBLY gracious of you.
I hold a differing opinion.

After watching Aaron's video and reading some of the relevant "scriptures" my level of suspicion increased considerably since I wrote that original post.

Even if Leigh Dundas partnered with these organizations because she genuinely supported the same issues I suspect that OSA would reach out to her to use her for their purposes as well.