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Inanna

Arriving fresh from Callahan’s Crosstime Saloon
Hi. I’m a former Scio. Second generation. I stuck with it (far too long) after I grew up. I think I was looking for magic- and not the dreary Crowleyesque kind. Just something outside the everyday.

It took an embarassingly long time for me to find out that this wasn’t the right place.

When you get to the end of the stick, there’s not actually a carrot there.

I’ve been out for years but I still think about what happened.
 

La La Lou Lou

Well-known member
Hi. I’m a former Scio. Second generation. I stuck with it (far too long) after I grew up. I think I was looking for magic- and not the dreary Crowleyesque kind. Just something outside the everyday.

It took an embarassingly long time for me to find out that this wasn’t the right place.

When you get to the end of the stick, there’s not actually a carrot there.

I’ve been out for years but I still think about what happened.
Don't be embarrassed, it can take a very long time to come to the end phenomena. Many of us were brainwashed for decades. I left 40 years ago and still dream about escaping, not night mares, just the brain sorting things out. Well done you have achieved total freedom, and finally you are free to be who you really are without trying to fit in in an insane cult.

Love the name, you have a lot to live up to with that name!

I do hope you blossom in your life now.
 

Inanna

Arriving fresh from Callahan’s Crosstime Saloon
My family left before I did. Over time, I started pulling back a bit more and more and reading the internet.

I was going to stay anyway but they got mean and weird for the umpteenth time. I finally realized that they weren’t just strict (and weird), but they truly didn’t care about me or anyone else there and that it was only about money and control. So then I was out for good.

As to posting particulars, I probably will keep that to a minimum. I saw a lot of things on other message boards back when those were around.
 

Karakorum

Broke ranks over 10 years ago, never looked back
Many greetings to the Mesopotamian goddess of love. Hello and welcome to the forums, hope you stick around! We could use more 2nd gen perspectives.

:welcome2:

Hi. I’m a former Scio. Second generation. I stuck with it (far too long) after I grew up. I think I was looking for magic- and not the dreary Crowleyesque kind. Just something outside the everyday.
Di your parents pressure/encourage/force you to do any courses? Did they want to get you on staff or SO?

When you get to the end of the stick, there’s not actually a carrot there.
Its a reverse carrot&stick. It starts with carrot, but the further you go the less carrot and more stick.


It took an embarassingly long time for me to find out that this wasn’t the right place.
Well, as a 2nd gen myself, I think its only understandable. If all your family members and friends are in and everyone keeps saying how great it is, it isn't easy to just say: "Nah, I'm right and everyone else is wrong!".

Even though my belief in much of the tech ran out at one point, I still soldiered on for some 1.5 years regardless. I knew that when I defect, I will leave my team in a pickle and they will be punished for me leaving. I also knew my family and friends would all disconnect from me. I believed that that I have no real world job experience and few marketable skills.

For 1st gens scientology is very often a "prison of belief", but for us it very often is primarily a "prison of necessity". Nowhere to go after you leave, unless you have some family that are never-ins.
 
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Dotey OT

We Finally Got a Puppy!
Welcome Ianna!! I am glad that you made it out.

I've been out now for about five years, after about thirty years in. I am one of the more recently out people posting here. I was unhappy to learn that many here were out before I even got in. The truth was around but I did not bother looking into it. I wanted scn to be true, and thought it was, mostly.

Give us some stories sometime if you feel like it. You can change elements of it in order to not give yourself away. We will eat them up regardless!!

So happy that you posted.

Hey guys, another t-shirt:

Scientology - When you get to the end of the stick, there is actually not a carrot there.
 
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Barile

Well-known member
Thanks for joining in, Ianna!

ya know we should really have a cert for new members... too soon ya think? :roflmao::thumbsup:
 

Karakorum

Broke ranks over 10 years ago, never looked back

Inanna

Arriving fresh from Callahan’s Crosstime Saloon
Many greetings to the Mesopotamian goddess of love. Hello and welcome to the forums, hope you stick around! We could use more 2nd gen perspectives.

:welcome2:


Di your parents pressure/encourage/force you to do any courses? Did they want to get you on staff or SO?


Its a reverse carrot&stick. It starts with carrot, but the further you go the less carrot and more stick.



Well, as a 2nd gen myself, I think its only understandable. If all your family members and friends are in and everyone keeps saying how great it is, it isn't easy to just say: "Nah, I'm right and everyone else is wrong!".

Even though my belief in much of the tech ran out at one point, I still soldiered on for some 1.5 years regardless. I knew that when I defect, I will leave my team in a pickle and they will be punished for me leaving. I also knew my family and friends would all disconnect from me. I believed that that I have no real world job experience and few marketable skills.

For 1st gens scientology is very often a "prison of belief", but for us it very often is primarily a "prison of necessity". Nowhere to go after you leave, unless you have some family that are never-ins.
They did not pressure me, though, after dad left he occasionally gave me rather pointed lectures about organized religion. But I was cool with it.

I think he wanted me to just be public, but he didn’t say much about it. Dad hated regimentation, altitude and pomposity. That’s why he left before I did. But at least he and my mom knew I was out, before they died.
 

programmer_guy

True ex-Scientologist
They did not pressure me, though, after dad left he occasionally gave me rather pointed lectures about organized religion. But I was cool with it.

I think he wanted me to just be public, but he didn’t say much about it. Dad hated regimentation, altitude and pomposity. That’s why he left before I did. But at least he and my mom knew I was out, before they died.
Maybe they were afraid of the Scientology disconnection policy so they were afraid of loosing you?
 

Karakorum

Broke ranks over 10 years ago, never looked back
Maybe they were afraid of the Scientology disconnection policy so they were afraid of loosing you?
That's a fair assumption. People sometimes do the craziest and most detrimental things under the misguided notion that they are just "keeping you out of trouble" and that "you will be sec-checked less that way".
 
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