Did the disappointment of Scientology make some into conformists (sheep) to the current zeitgeist ?
Hubbard embraced imagination, it was the imagination of going clear, and then OT. All those rhetoric abilities one could attain..
I don't think Scientology necessarily poisoned imagination.
Perhaps that's unduly harsh.
They simply outlawed* imagination and made it a high crime.
* (exception): Scientologists are robustly encouraged to use their imaginations while in auditing sessions.
I'm aware of all the "items" in this post/comment. Some of them I was unaware of just a few years ago, mostly because they didn't directly affect me and I didn't investigate. I think this could be said of tens of millions of people nationwide in the US and a backlash is in progress. To what extent this counters current "American Marxism", a term and a book by Mark Levin which is on the best seller list, remains to be seen.Perhaps the opening post wasn't clearly expressed.
Is it my imagination, or is a totalitarian mindset becoming prevalent in society? A mindset that includes "political correctness," "speech codes" (no free speech), instant ostracization, and - in its most strident form - is similar to Maoism, including the cultural revolution, in China, of the 1960s?
This mindset has similarities to the (core) Scientology cult mindset.
Even some of the language: "trigger" = "key in"; micro-aggression = invalidate ("ding"/"de-ding"); ideas similar to "PTS," and also "SP"; the term "safe space"; "social credit score" = "down stat"/"out ethics" etc., etc.
People who are paying closer attention to this than I can probably add more correspondences and similarities.
This is the "new normal." It's displayed on college campuses where, fifty+ years ago, free speech was popular and, now, "correct speech" has replaced free speech, with any speech, deemed not correct, labelled as "hate speech," or with a number of other stigmatizing labels.
This is what was meant by the "current zeitgeist." It's prevalent in big corporations, public schools, the corporate media, etc., even the medical and public health bureaucracies.
Large numbers of people moving in lockstep.
The term "conspiracy theorist" carries tremendous stigma, which is great for those engaging in shady activities behind the scenes, plus there are plenty of kooks who see conspiracies everywhere (although this was always the case, but now is reinforced by stigmatizing anyone spotting deliberate shady activities.)
Hubbard, of course, while instructing that his organization operate as a (ruthless) "tight conspiracy," saw conspiracies (large and small) virtually everywhere he looked. It's not surprising that someone recovering from exposure to Scientology might be allergic to the notion.
And allergic to almost any notion forwarded by Hubbard.
When the "correct think," of the "current zeitgeist," intersects with (the understandable) repulsion from things Hubbardian (or views forwarded or used by Hubbard), a kind of ideological "perfect storm" can form.
This is not prevalent on this message board, but I've noticed it elsewhere.
Strange to contrast the micro psy op of the Scientology cult with macro psy op in which we are now residing... "on this planet."
Or perhaps that's just silly
Anyway, this is a much more enjoyable message (and quite true):
What some saw as "rebellion" in college students in the 1960's, was simply conformity to the ideology of their new peer group. They "rebelled" against their parents' culture, by conforming to their Marxist professors' culture.Totalitarian mindset IS becoming prevalent in society. I have been waiting for young people and college students to show some of their natural rebellion agains this. I am still waiting.
There were some Marxists, but most of the people of (what was later labelled as) the "counter culture" were not Marxists.What some saw as "rebellion" in college students in the 1960's, was simply conformity to the ideology of their new peer group. They "rebelled" against their parents' culture, by conforming to their Marxist professors' culture.
In the 1960's, as today, true rebellion would have been to be an anti-Marxist.
The topic was, "Did Scientology poison curiosity?", with a reference to the odd similarities of (core) Scientology and today's (self consciously trendy) totalitarians.Hubbard embraced imagination, it was the imagination of going clear, and then OT. All those rhetoric abilities one could attain.
It is possible that world governments have used the Scientology/cult saturation/ brainwashing approach to indoctrinate the young.The topic was, "Did Scientology poison curiosity?", with a reference to the odd similarities of (core) Scientology and today's (self consciously trendy) totalitarians.
Disappointment with or failure at scn might turn some people toward an atheist scientific materialism or realism position with a dismissal and rejection of anything in the category of extrasensory, paranormal or supernatural. An ex scn would probably be less likely to follow any zeitgeist with a Utopian flavor having already been through one with scn Planetary Clearing. I don't think an ex scn exploring some other avenue of self awareness is in the same category as being in the "current zeitgeist" which has a very broad description.Did the disappointment of Scientology make some into conformists (sheep) to the current zeitgeist ?