And did his output dwindle when he was no longer an acceptable vehicle to the "muse" ?
Some regard the muse as a separate etheric being.
The most thrilling thing in your life is your love and consciousness of your Guardian. She materializes for you. You have no doubts of her. She is real. She is always with you. You love her very much. You trust her. You see and hear her. She is not your master. You have a mighty spiritual will of your own. She is an advisor and as such is respected by you. She is wise and worthy and never changes shape…She has copper red hair, long braids, a lovely Venusian face, a white gown belted with jade squares. She wears gold slippers. Thus you see her…Only Flavia Julia and then the All Powerful have opinions worth inclining toward.
It's an interesting concept. But, based on what Hubbard was "channeling" it seems that the Muse perpetrated the same order of hoax on Hubbard as did Hubbard on others.
Because the very first "muse session" gave Ron fake snake oil to sell, called "engrams"
In my rather extensive experience with Scientology (during and after) I have never seen any slightest evidence that anyone ever received ANY of the benefits Hubbard was selling for running out engrams.
Honestly, in 2020, I don't think anyone in the entire world of Scientology even cares or gives 5 seconds of thought to PRE-NATAL ENGRAMS with hypnotically compelling WORDS known as "ENGRAMIC CONTENT". Those WORDS that so dominated all of life on earth, causing disease, suffering and wars!
Where did all those multitudes of diabolical "WORDS" go? LOL
Maybe they evolved into (R6) END WORDS and later still, MISUNDERSTOOD WORDS.
And ultimately LEGAL WORDS on the contracts you sign which make it clear that Scientology has no liability for charging fortunes and not delivering any result---and that you cannot get your money back.
"Say the word (Scientology) and you'll be free. . .
Say the word and be like me (Ron) "
I left in 1978, also in LA. I wonder if I knew you.I blew scn around 1980 when I was living in LA and joined the mass exodus of probably hundreds of scientologists caused by Hubbard resuming the monthly price increases. Several blown scientologist get together groups sprung up and I joined one. There were about fifteen of us and we met weekly at someone's house and discussed scientology and other practices and listened to a lot of channelling tapes. Obviously a bunch of newly blown scientologists would not be critical of channeling and we listened with interest.
One of the tapes came from a group of OTs who had recruited a channeller and they were grilling the entity on whether OT3 was real or not. Specifics about OT3 were deleted since the OTs were surely concerned about the harm which might be done by making the information broadly public. Try as they might they couldn't get the entity to commit and he responded with, "Well, that is one if several possibilities . . . . " and went on to expound about other exciting possibilities in the theta universe. He was my favorite entity.
wow, just wow. You and Zertel are assuming there is a OT. LOLI left in 1978, also in LA. I wonder if I knew you.
My opinion on OT3:
The OT3 incident 2 is both true and not true.
Did it actually physically take place on our past track of this planet? No. It did not.
Is it a real, accessible incident which can be audited? Yes.
Inc 2 is what I call a "morphic field legend"; "morphic field" is Rupert Sheldrake's term for what Hubbard called a group mind. It's also an example of 'bleed' from a parallel time track, which has infected this timeline and became a legend. The incident is present in the planet's morphic field (local subset of the 6th dynamic field), where it can be located and viewed. In traditional terms, it exists in a "lower plane", the lower astral.
And just for the record, there are many morphic field legends, bled over in the same manner, in the readings of Edgar Cayce, and also in some parts of Filbert's Excalibur Revisited. There are events which didn't happen here, and which influence individuals and indeed, whole societies. These events can and should be processed, despite their not being actually experienced by the PC running them. My only caveat is to be careful. A single person's morphic field (thetan + body) is no match for higher, more powerful fields. Hubbard's warning that OT3 can kill the unwary was probably true at the time. But OT3 has diminished in dangerousness. This diminution alone is an indicator that Inc 2 is from a morphic field. The more people run it, the weaker it gets because it so many have reduced it. The mechanics of morphic fields are that number of owned members in the field controls whether the field dominates or is dominated by other morphic fields. There is a growing population of those who have run it, it no longer dominates as much, and will in the future fade away.
Ed
I don't recall Hubbard mentioning the "muse" nor "etheric being".And did his output dwindle when he was no longer an acceptable vehicle to the "muse" ?
Some regard the muse as a separate etheric being.
The materials of (1966) OT 2, as I recall, were produced by Alan Walter and, I think, Jack Horner. Hubbard took their notes and made them, essentially, the Clearing Course part two. This demoted McMaster as he then still had bank.I left in 1978, also in LA. I wonder if I knew you.
My opinion on OT3:
The OT3 incident 2 is both true and not true.
Did it actually physically take place on our past track of this planet? No. It did not.
Is it a real, accessible incident which can be audited? Yes.
Inc 2 is what I call a "morphic field legend"; "morphic field" is Rupert Sheldrake's term for what Hubbard called a group mind. It's also an example of 'bleed' from a parallel time track, which has infected this timeline and became a legend. The incident is present in the planet's morphic field (local subset of the 6th dynamic field), where it can be located and viewed. In traditional terms, it exists in a "lower plane", the lower astral.
And just for the record, there are many morphic field legends, bled over in the same manner, in the readings of Edgar Cayce, and also in some parts of Filbert's Excalibur Revisited. There are events which didn't happen here, and which influence individuals and indeed, whole societies. These events can and should be processed, despite their not being actually experienced by the PC running them. My only caveat is to be careful. A single person's morphic field (thetan + body) is no match for higher, more powerful fields. Hubbard's warning that OT3 can kill the unwary was probably true at the time. But OT3 has diminished in dangerousness. This diminution alone is an indicator that Inc 2 is from a morphic field. The more people run it, the weaker it gets because it so many have reduced it. The mechanics of morphic fields are that number of owned members in the field controls whether the field dominates or is dominated by other morphic fields. There is a growing population of those who have run it, it no longer dominates as much, and will in the future fade away.
Ed
Excellent post.Hubbard invented Xenu and Incident 2 as an explanation to himself and others for his failures in Southern Africa in 1966.
Veda,The materials of (1966) OT 2, as I recall, were produced by Alan Walter and, I think, Jack Horner. Hubbard took their notes and made them, essentially, the Clearing Course part two. This demoted McMaster as he then still had bank.
Two things had been happening: John McMaster was becoming a celebrity as the "first real Clear," making Hubbard jealous ; and people were completing the (1965/1966) Clearing Course and were unable to Run Route 1 of Creation of Human Ability, and were caving-in thinking they had falsely attested to Clear.
OT 2 was originally presented as "another bank" in addition to the R6 bank of the Clearing Course.
Hubbard revised this during the Class 8 course in 1968, making CC, OT 2, and OT 3 all part of R6.
Hubbard invented Xenu and Incident 2 as an explanation to himself and others for his failures in Southern Africa in 1966.
gotta luv the application of the mystery sandwich by these commercials, thanks to Steve Hall and Jefferson Hawkins, during the 1980's 1990's.