David Mayo on CLEAR

Veda

Well-known member


This 1989 article titled Clear, by L. Ron Hubbard's personal auditor, probably qualifies as "insider info."

It may be helpful to those who were caught up in the mish mosh of "the state of Clear," particularly after the changes of the late 1970s.

Article on Clear http://www.ivymag.org/iv-01-02.html

"It was PR and marketing considerations that led Hubbard to decide that certain people were 'clear' at a certain point..." David Mayo, former Class 12 auditor and Case Supervisor International.



 

Veda

Well-known member
"Ascension" does describe a state that occurred in one of my "pcs" when I was exploring (with the "pc's" invitation and consent) the Scientology "Clearing" processes of the late 1950s - and sometimes creatively experimenting with them - many moons ago.

As I recall, the session began with asking the "pc": "Who or what are you mainly being?"

This was asked as a listing question. The person began to list, and when an FN/Blowdown item was voiced, the person was asked, "Who or what would control, create, or dominate a ___insert the Blow Down item______?"

When that item was obtained, a six way "help" bracket was run on the second item.

The result was dramatic to say the least, and was far superior to the unimpressive "Dianetic Clears" which were coming off the Scientological assembly line at the time.

Probably should also add that I had already audited the same "pc" on "ARC straight wire," "R3R Dianetics," and "Grade 0," so this was a fairly experienced "pc," who was already doing well.

The idea of "help" used as a button in "Clearing" was submitted to Hubbard by a woman whose name I, unfortunately, do not remember. The mid/late 1950s period was just before Hubbard began playing around with "actual GPMs," which was followed by "Implant GPMs," and then, eventually, "Body Thetans."

Hubbard almost seemed serious (and sincere) about doing real (beneficial to others) "research" for a while there in the mid/late 1950s, but reverted to his "smash" his "name into history"/"smooth ball bearings on the assembly line" mode of operation.

The most startling (and unpleasantly illuminating for any starry-eyed Scientologists) observation by David Mayo is that Hubbard redefined "Clear" for PR and marketing reasons.

That meant that Hubbard's hidden agenda over rode auditing tech which most Scientologists always assumed Hubbard regarded as special and "sacred."
 

stratty

Stiff Member
That meant that Hubbard's hidden agenda over rode auditing tech which most Scientologists always assumed Hubbard regarded as special and "sacred."
From the very beginning and right up until being awarded some meaningless title and a trophy of some sort by David Miscavidge meant more, auditing, auditors and 'the tek' were fundamentally the most important things in scientology, with auditors being described by Hubbard as 'the most important beings on the planet' or words to that effect. If that was really the case, how come, as a trained auditor, I rarely got paid and, in the main was treated like shit. Doesn't make any sense.
 

Veda

Well-known member
From the very beginning and right up until being awarded some meaningless title and a trophy of some sort by David Miscavidge meant more, auditing, auditors and 'the tek' were fundamentally the most important things in scientology, with auditors being described by Hubbard as 'the most important beings on the planet' or words to that effect. If that was really the case, how come, as a trained auditor, I rarely got paid and, in the main was treated like shit. Doesn't make any sense.
When I was a newbie Scientologist in 1970 and had only done the Comm (HAS) Course and HQS Course, a Sea Org recruiter attempted to "8C" me into signing a Sea Org billion year contract.

I refused and tried to handle her with my newly learned TRs.

Her response was to shout, "Don't try that bullshit on me!"

Bullshit? But this was the "tech" ???

I realized, even then, that as a Sea Org member she was close to "Source" (Hubbard), and that was far superior to being a public-person dilettante, even if I was a budding/nascent auditor.

A few days ago, was asked about the period of a year, after having left organized Scientology, during which I audited most of the Grade Chart on others. There's no single description of that time. Did however, come across another incomplete snippet that might, perhaps, be somewhat interesting to a few people. It also examines some other areas:

Miracles though AuditingShe had one more miscar
 

Veda

Well-known member


Francois Rabelais, 16th century originator of the benign Thelema and "Do What Thou Wilt."

His picture hung on the wall of my mid 1980s auditing room.

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Doesn't appear that there's much interest in "tech" discussion.

Just to write this I have to assume the view of my somewhat naive self of over thirty years ago.

Still, some "tech talk" would be some variation, which is healthy.

Unfortunately, those inclined towards "tech talk" are usually simply seeking new clients, and leave after they've done some "dissemination."
 
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PirateAndBum

Administrator
Staff member


Francois Rabelais, 16th century originator of the benign Thelema and "Do What The Wilt."

His picture hung on the wall of my mid 1980s auditing room.

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Doesn't appear that there's much interest in "tech" discussion.

Just to write this I have to assume the view of my somewhat naive self of over thirty years ago.

Still, some "tech talk" would be some variation, which is healthy.

Unfortunately, those inclined towards "tech talk" are usually simply seeking new clients, and leave after they've done some some "dissemination."
One of the things I missed on ESMB was the discussions of tech stuff. It seems most of the people that were involved in those threads no longer posted. I've maintained an interest in such things even though not popular topics of discussion.
 

Cat's Squirrel

New member


Francois Rabelais, 16th century originator of the benign Thelema and "Do What Thou Wilt."

His picture hung on the wall of my mid 1980s auditing room.

____________​

Doesn't appear that there's much interest in "tech" discussion.

Just to write this I have to assume the view of my somewhat naive self of over thirty years ago.

Still, some "tech talk" would be some variation, which is healthy.

Unfortunately, those inclined towards "tech talk" are usually simply seeking new clients, and leave after they've done some "dissemination."
Hi Veda,

I was happy for a while to get involved in Tech discussions on the old board. The main reasons I haven't done it recently, are;

1 / I'm not a trained auditor, and so my perceptions and speculations about the Tech weren't always taken seriously by those who were;

2 / (More importantly) I want to send a strong message to anyone browsing this board, or the former ESMB, that they should stay clear of the CofS; this especially applies to never-ins who are browsing through having seen "Going Clear" or read a book such as Jon Atack's "A Piece Of Blue Sky". I worry that anything which describes aspects of the Tech in positive terms dilutes that message.

For the record, I attested to Clear on the 13th May 1987 and only about a fortnight later discovered, on a visit to London, that I was still agoraphobic (a problem I'd had for some time and had been hoping to handle through auditing). So much for "no longer has his own reactive mind."

I'm not convinced there is such a thing as the reactive mind in the way Hubbard described it, and which can be erased in the first place. I do think however that it's possible there's a state which could usefully be given the title of Clear, which is "able to confront the force in mental image pictures" (from Ken Ogger's writings on ARS).

[EDIT: I was also told by a couple of people who for one reason or another aren't posting on this new board that saying anything positive about the Tech, even if I felt it was justified, was disrespectful to people who had suffered in the CofS and / or risked opening up old wounds. So those are the reasons why I, and perhaps others, have been reluctant to discuss the Tech on here or on the old board.]
 
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Enthetan

Veteran of the Psychic Wars
From the very beginning and right up until being awarded some meaningless title and a trophy of some sort by David Miscavidge meant more, auditing, auditors and 'the tek' were fundamentally the most important things in scientology, with auditors being described by Hubbard as 'the most important beings on the planet' or words to that effect. If that was really the case, how come, as a trained auditor, I rarely got paid and, in the main was treated like shit. Doesn't make any sense.
I have a philosophy about people: "Ignore what they say. Watch what they do".

Hubbard, by his actions, only valued that which directly increased his personal stash of cash.

It's also amusing to note that he recognized that the people who would be most able to con Scientologists out of cash, would be LEAST susceptible to arguments that they should do it for the betterment of mankind, and would demand cash.
 

Caroline

clerk #2


This 1989 article titled Clear, by L. Ron Hubbard's personal auditor, probably qualifies as "insider info."

It may be helpful to those who were caught up in the mish mosh of "the state of Clear," particularly after the changes of the late 1970s.

Article on Clear http://www.ivymag.org/iv-01-02.html

"It was PR and marketing considerations that led Hubbard to decide that certain people were 'clear' at a certain point..." David Mayo, former Class 12 auditor and Case Supervisor International.



When New Era Dianetics first came out in 1978, I recall there being widespread confusion about Clear, Dianetic Clear, Natural Clear, etc. Up to that point, the only route to the OT 1 was by way of Power, R6EW and finally, the Clearing Course, on which level solo auditors supposedly erased the core of the reactive mind, which resulted in Clear.

Obviously the "Clear cog" is what has been "important" all along. Prior to 1978, preclears on Dianetics had been "cogniting" that they were "mocking it up," but weren't being allowed to attest to Clear. This technical shift to again recognize Dianetic Clear as Clear, worked to "revitalize" the many people who had been audited on Dianetics after the point of the necessary realization and mindset, and who had thereafter fallen off the Bridge, gone off lines, etc.

The necessary mindset goes something like this: after perhaps hundreds of hours of Dianetics and other lower grade chart auditing, finally realizing that I have been mocking up my reactive mind for these endless millennia, being "blown out" about this realization, and having no clue that the whole journey and state were delusions I paid Hubbard to implant in me in the first place.

The PR and marketing scam worked. New Era Dianetics and NOTs opened up the floodgates and there was a financial "boom."
 
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