Yeah, she wants someone who makes $100,000 a year..
Oh wait, i think i goofed up.
Maybe Joy is promoting that she is LOOKING FOR someone who makes over $100K a year?
I thought she was promoting that SHE makes over $100K per year.
Someone please give me an r-factor! LOL
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Yeah, she wants someone who makes $100,000 a year.
I actually believe the OP is very important. I think she just blew her claim that she is a Christian out of the water. She says:
"I've been a Scientologist for 10 years. It's my life!"
And she is going to continue to claim to be a Christian? Seriously?
I say this is very important because her political identity, cachet, and following are all based on her purported Christianity. No MAGA person is following her because she is a Scientologist. Also, Christians tend to not like fake Christians, hypocrites and liars.
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Excellent analysis. Yeah, her entire personal ad screams "I'm a Scientologist; the Christian stuff is PR bullshit for the MAGA crowd." One could write Master's thesis parsing and detailing all of the reasons why that is true.Yeah, she claims elsewhere to be a Christian but doesn't identify herself in any way as a Christian in her 2D Non-E message. Plus, she requires that her partner follow The Way to Happiness but there's no requirement to follow the bible.
She's very specific with her requirements of her partner being a Scientologist and on the Bridge but no requirements or expectations for her partner to practice Christianity. I guess she's OK with her partner believing that Christ was just an implant from a pissed off intergalactic warlord.
The lolz never end with this one. Almost as funny as people claiming to be scientologists and muslims.And she is going to continue to claim to be a Christian? Seriously?
I posted the following to Mike Rinder's story and want to add it here.Please note that Villa says that she has been a Scientologist for 10 years, and it's her life
And she's going to continue to say that she is a Christian?
She's going to say that she is Christian despite bragging about getting more than 100 people into Scientology? (Exactly how many people has she brought to a Christian church?)
She's going to say that she is Christian despite the fact that as Scientology Class 4 Auditor she is necessarily a Scientology minister or minister-in-training? See:
The Scientology E-Meter is a "religious artifact" "for use only by a Scientology minister or Scientology minister in training."
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Flashback:I posted the following to Mike Rinder's story and want to add it here.
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I would like to emphasize Joy Villa"s as a Scientology Class 4 Auditor on her Internship.
As set forth in: (a) the relevant Scientology HCOPLs and HCOBs in the current Minister's Course pack (which I have read); and (b) the official Scientology website, excerpted in my ESMBR thread about Villa's personal ad --
https://exscn2.net/threads/christian-scientologist-joy-villa-is-looking-for-a-romantic-partner-2d-on-a-message-board-for-scientologists.3880/
1)The Scientology E-Meter is a "religious artifact" "for use only by a Scientology minister or Scientology minister in training."
2) An Auditor is a minister or minister in training of the Church of Scientology.
3) All Auditors are required to be ordained ministers of the Church of Scientology
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4) It is a prerequisite for permanent certification as an Auditor to become an ordained minister in the Church of Scientology.
Is Villa seriously going to continue to say that she is a Christian when she: (a) is, at minimum, a minister in training in a different religion, namely Scientology; and (b) has indeed almost completed her study and training to become a Scientology minister?
Additionally, Villa is a Scientology Clear, Super Powers Completion, all three Ls Completion, Cause Resurgence Rundown Completion, OT Preps Completion, Celebrity Center, Int. Major FSM, Gold Meritorious with the IAS*, and Ideal Org Vanguard for Africa -- while there is no evidence that I am aware of** that she has been inside a Christian church for years, if not decades.
For Villa to assert that she is a Christian is insulting to true Christians given the above.
* Villa was also awarded Patron Meritorious jointly with Thorsten von Overgaard when they were together before they were married.
** If there were such evidence, Villa would have posted it to social media and I would have found it. In this particular case, absence of evidence is evidence of absence.
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The title of minister is highly respected in scientology and is proof of high religious devotion...1)The Scientology E-Meter is a "religious artifact" "for use only by a Scientology minister or Scientology minister in training."
2) An Auditor is a minister or minister in training of the Church of Scientology.
3) All Auditors are required to be ordained ministers of the Church of Scientology
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4) It is a prerequisite for permanent certification as an Auditor to become an ordained minister in the Church of Scientology.
It's true, lying IS required of a Scientologist. As per Hubbard, it is the only way to control people. And controlling people is necessary for those who are Scientologists.In other words: Scientologists lie, they are told to lie, expected to lie and get punished if they don't lie in accordance with the policy. Not lying would be considered an overt - a sin in scn lingo.
I used to think auditors were respected, and maybe to the general scientology public they still are to some degree. Auditors/tech personnel are just an easy target when rons 100% unworkable tech does what it usually does (doesn't work).The title of minister is highly respected in scientology and is proof of high religious devotion...
... said no one ever
The title 'minister' in scientology means absolutely nothing to those inside. As far as I know its just a ploy to make IRS happy and also to enable the crooked use of priest-penitent clauses to shield scientologists from having to testify in court.
Again, I'm not trying to imply that scientiology isn't a system of spiritual beliefs - aka a religion. But I am saying that the pseudo-Christian titles and the cross and pseudo-Buddhist verbiage... these are PR props aimed to be used against non-scientologists.
As for Joy's own religious conviction? Either she is severely confused, or she is a good scientologists and knows that you can't do "other practices", meaning she knows she can't 'really' be a christian. But she also read "It's a PR world" and knows when to tell "acceptable truths" or share a "shore story" with the press.
In other words: Scientologists lie, they are told to lie, expected to lie and get punished if they don't lie in accordance with the policy. Not lying would be considered an overt - a sin in scn lingo.
I understand. However, I see nothing wrong, and indeed much good, in holding the Church of Scientology to its representations.The title of minister is highly respected in scientology and is proof of high religious devotion...
... said no one ever
The title 'minister' in scientology means absolutely nothing to those inside. As far as I know its just a ploy to make IRS happy and also to enable the crooked use of priest-penitent clauses to shield scientologists from having to testify in court.
Yeah I get that part. But nobody is gonna hold Joy accountable. Certainly not inside while she is an active and gung-ho tech-promoting good little PR soldier.I understand. However, I see nothing wrong, and indeed much good, in holding the Church of Scientology to its representations.
Members of the Christian MAGA community will hold her accountable by abandoning her if they learn that she really isn't a Christian and has been misrepresenting her beliefs and religious affiliation (i.e., lying) all along.Yeah I get that part. But nobody is gonna hold Joy accountable. Certainly not inside while she is an active and gung-ho tech-promoting good little PR soldier.
It does mean that the person went to the trouble of doing the Ministers Course, and read the book "All the World's Religions" and did that verbatim of the creed or whatever. But it is done over that superiority thing that you have when you are really in.The title of minister is highly respected in scientology and is proof of high religious devotion...
... said no one ever
The title 'minister' in scientology means absolutely nothing to those inside. As far as I know its just a ploy to make IRS happy and also to enable the crooked use of priest-penitent clauses to shield scientologists from having to testify in court.
Again, I'm not trying to imply that scientiology isn't a system of spiritual beliefs - aka a religion. But I am saying that the pseudo-Christian titles and the cross and pseudo-Buddhist verbiage... these are PR props aimed to be used against non-scientologists.
As for Joy's own religious conviction? Either she is severely confused, or she is a good scientologists and knows that you can't do "other practices", meaning she knows she can't 'really' be a christian. But she also read "It's a PR world" and knows when to tell "acceptable truths" or share a "shore story" with the press.
In other words: Scientologists lie, they are told to lie, expected to lie and get punished if they don't lie in accordance with the policy. Not lying would be considered an overt - a sin in scn lingo.