"Christian" Scientologist Joy Villa is looking for a romantic partner ("2D") on a message board for Scientologists

Dotey OT

Dis-Membered
Members of the Christian MAGA community will hold her accountable by abandoning her if they learn that she really isn't a Christian and has been misrepresenting her beliefs and religious affiliation (i.e., lying) all along.

That is what I am working towards.

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What they need is to look at the way that they think and examine that. I think all those that observe a religion should do that, but it's difficult when your religion says that yours is the only true religion, which most do. Kind of like 'yours is the only true political party" kind of relationship.
 

Karakorum

Well-known member
Members of the Christian MAGA community will hold her accountable by abandoning her if they learn that she really isn't a Christian and has been misrepresenting her beliefs and religious affiliation (i.e., lying) all along.

That is what I am working towards.
Well, that's a good goal. The problem is making them listen, because I think you will easily be accused of being a "deep state operative on a smear campaign" and other such stuff.

Its really hard to argue with the hardcore MAGA crowd, because whenever you disagree they think you must be part of the liberal agenda. A lot of the conspiracy populist crowd are too far gone into the whackadoodle forest.

I'm saying this as a right-leaning centrist who voted for Trump by the way.
 

Zertel

Well-known member
If some entertainment media interviewed her she might be able to bullshit her way out of the dual religions bind by expressing her love for "God" or "The Lord" while also following the "Spiritual Principles" of Scientology. Scientology makes no specific statement about the exact nature of a Supreme Being.
 
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Type4_PTS

Well-known member
If some entertainment media interviewed her she might be able to bullshit her way out of the dual religions bind by expressing her love for "God" or "The Lord" while also following the "Spiritual Principles" of Scientology. Scientology makes no specific statement about the exact nature of a Supreme Being.
While that's true, Scientology does make many statements that show it's incompatible with Christianity.

"In all the broad Universe there is no other hope for Man than ourselves."

- L. Ron Hubbard, "Ron's Journal" 1967
 

ISNOINews

Independent Scientology and Nation of Islam news
If some entertainment media interviewed her she might be able to bullshit her way out of the dual religions bind by expressing her love for "God" or "The Lord" while also following the "Spiritual Principles" of Scientology. Scientology makes no specific statement about the exact nature of a Supreme Being.
Villa might. However, she says:

"I've been a Scientologist for 10 years. It's my life!"

She is going to continue to claim to be a Christian when she says that a different religion, Scientology, is her life? Seriously?


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Zertel

Well-known member
Villa might. However, she says:

"I've been a Scientologist for 10 years. It's my life!"

And she is going to continue to claim to be a Christian? Seriously?


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Of course she's going to continue to claim to be a Christian. It's her fan base. The only people who gripe about it are ex scns and probably some hard core fundamentalist Christians. 👽 (trying out a Xenu emoji)
 

Zertel

Well-known member
While that's true, Scientology does make many statements that show it's incompatible with Christianity.

"In all the broad Universe there is no other hope for Man than ourselves."

- L. Ron Hubbard, "Ron's Journal" 1967
I'm sure she could dig up a reference or two of Elron stating suitable "reverence" for God.
 

ISNOINews

Independent Scientology and Nation of Islam news
Of course she's going to continue to claim to be a Christian. It's her fan base. The only people who gripe about it are ex scns and probably some hard core fundamentalist Christians. 👽 (trying out a Xenu emoji)
I was on Twitter when the fact that Villa is a Scientologist was revealed to the MAGA community. More than just "some hard core fundamentalist Christians" griped. Many fundamentalists, and even non-fundamentalists, were troubled and stopped following her.

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Karen#1

Well-known member
Showbiz is competitive. Whatever works.
I saw a "glamour shot" of yourself one time. Alanzo posted it but then he deleted it. He should have left it up - it looked great (and hot) - Lol
I had some private glamour shots done for my fiance that I was engaged to at the time.
The cult got Alexander Jentzsch my son to turn me in and like I robot I took them to OSA to show and tell as private glamor shots.
OSA kept copies of these originals and years later when I spoke out posted these images to "prove" I was a prostitute.

Because they LIE LIE LIE and "manufacture" anything to smear enemy, the good news is that their credibility of these smears is zero.
 

Zertel

Well-known member
I have a second cousin who did well in the porn business. She even won an award at one of the porn Award Shows. I think it was for best "girl on girl" scene.
I better get off this forum. My head is going in the wrong direction! Goodnight.
 
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Enthetan

Veteran of the Psychic Wars
The title 'minister' in scientology means absolutely nothing to those inside. As far as I know its just a ploy to make IRS happy and also to enable the crooked use of priest-penitent clauses to shield scientologists from having to testify in court.
In the early 80's, we were ordered to do it so we would be exempt from the military draft.
 

Karakorum

Well-known member
In the early 80's, we were ordered to do it so we would be exempt from the military draft.
Haha even better!

And here was me thinking it was some smart guy already thinking 3 steps ahead and organizing this so they would use priest-penitent not to testify in court.

From what you say, that was more like an unexpected positive side-effect that nobody thought about at the time the decision was made?

Priceless.
 

HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
Yeah, she wants someone who makes $100,000 a year.

I actually believe the OP is very important. I think she just blew her claim that she is a Christian out of the water. She says:

"I've been a Scientologist for 10 years. It's my life!"

And she is going to continue to claim to be a Christian? Seriously?

I say this is very important because her political identity, cachet, and following are all based on her purported Christianity. No MAGA person is following her because she is a Scientologist. Also, Christians tend to not like fake Christians, hypocrites and liars.

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What is always missing with Scientologists and Politicians is a LIVE TV SHOW where they are forced to answer questions and not allowed to spin everyone blind and stupid with sophistry, misdirection and other rhetorical gimmicks.

I think it is the weakest link in the world. All the greatest political systems, economic systems and social systems fail because people in power are ALLOWED to bullshit their constituency, customers or voters.

Over the centuries, politicians and other professional liars have honed their skills so deftly it's now an art form where we end up with highly paid clowns like Jen Psaki who stand in front of a microphone and refuse to answer any questions by spinning non-sequiturs and making sincere faces.

Scientologists famously do not answer questions. It's why Hubbard, Miscavige and even Joy Villa refuse to appear on live interviews with hosts that demand real answers.

No Scientologist in history could stand up under direct questioning and followup questions where the host literally forced them to give a truthful answer or simply look into the camera and say they refuse to answer questions.

It would be entirely ludicrous to ask Joy Villa about how she can be a Christian Scientologist? And then play the audio lecture where Hubbard explains that "the man on the cross...there was no Christ!" And then the viewing audience would hear all about how Jesus was an implant designed to enslave humans, et al. Nope, Joy is not booking that talk show. LOL.

But what would REALLY happen if a Scientologist was handled by a wog who knew how to get a question answered? What would happen if a wog used REAL TR-3 to blast a hole thru Scientologists' "acceptable truths"? Here is exactly what would happen. . . .





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freethinker

Controversial
I was thinking of some super upstat prospects, since Joy mentioned in her 2D PROMO PIECE that she makes "over $100K per year".


JOHN TRAVOLTA: Maybe not a good match, because $100K doesn't even pay for the annual jet fuel on one of JT's jumbo jets.

BOB DUGGAN: With a 3 billion dollar net worth, I am not confident that Bob would feel that Joy's meager $274 per day income havingness is of comparable magnitude. Maybe Joy can do some L's or some havingness booster rundowns and then CSW Bob for a trial blind date?

DAVID MISCAVIGE: It doesn't appear that the search parties that have been trying to find Shelly all these many years are going to be successful. Perhaps Joy can have her tattoos professionally removed and join the Sea Org at INT HEADQUARTERS and work her way up the lines to eventually get posted as COB MESSENGER. Then one night when everyone has left the building to go sleep, perhaps Joy can come into COB's office wearing those super-micro white hot pants that Ron's messengers wore. And Joy could bring in that super-expensive scotch that Ron loved to drink. And then maybe Joy could turn on some mood music, perhaps the romantic soundtrack from Ron's Space Jazz album. Then Joy would have to apply the conditions and deliver what is needed and wanted. If this all works out, they could get married and Joy could become the "royal first lady of Scientology" just like Mary Sue Hubbard! And then Joy could have similar wins to Mary Sue!!

Just trying to help out . . .


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Yeah, she really limited her options here. She is looking for an upstat. Very few of those in Scientology unless the bank account is the qualification and spending it on services only to Scientology. Most upstat Scientologists by her standards will likely cause her second divorce, which may be her real plan because she likely get little joy for Joi if she marries a self serving Scientologist.

She probably has visions of twinning up on course all day long.
 

HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
Yeah, she really limited her options here. She is looking for an upstat. Very few of those in Scientology unless the bank account is the qualification and spending it on services only to Scientology. Most upstat Scientologists by her standards will likely cause her second divorce, which may be her real plan because she likely get little joy for Joi if she marries a self serving Scientologist.

She probably has visions of twinning up on course all day long.
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If i were advising Joy Villa on creating an IDEAL 2D, i would have her do the following:

1. Study Mary Sue Hubbard's book "MARRIAGE HAT" on how to have a joyous 2D!
2. Study all of Dr. Hubbard's tech on having 3 happy and successful marriages!
3. Study Tom Cruise's successful actions on all 3 of his marriages!
4. Clay demo how David Miscavige was able to create an ideal marriage!
5. CSW to COB, requesting that he use Sea Org execs to set up a fake movie audition for hot OT stud actors who make over $100K a year—like he did to help find the ideal 2D for Tom Cruise. Then review all the audition footage and pick the "right item" and send that info uplines to COB to get written approval to date them.

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