"Christian" Scientologist Joy Villa is a Scientology Minister or Minister-in-Training

ISNOINews

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"Christian" Scientologist Joy Villa is a Scientology Minister or Minister-in-Training.

In her recent Scientology personal ad, Joy Villa says that she is a Scientology Class 4 Auditor on her Internship at the Johannesburg Org. See:


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As set forth in: (a) the relevant Scientology HCOPLs and HCOBs in the current Minister's Course pack (which I have read); and (b) the official Scientology website:

The Scientology E-Meter used by Auditors is a "religious artifact" "for use only by a Scientology minister or Scientology minister in training."


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An Auditor is a minister or minister in training of the Church of Scientology.


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All Auditors are required to be ordained ministers of the Church of Scientology.


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Likewise, it is a prerequisite to for permanent certification as an Auditor that to become an ordained minister in the Church of Scientology.


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ISNOINews

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"Christian" Scientologist Joy Villa is a Scientology Minister or Minister-in-Training.

In her recent Scientology personal ad, Joy Villa says that she is a Scientology Class 4 Auditor on her Internship at the Johannesburg Org. See:


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As set forth in: (a) the relevant Scientology HCOPLs and HCOBs in the current Minister's Course pack (which I have read); and (b) the official Scientology website:

The Scientology E-Meter used by Auditors is a "religious artifact" "for use only by a Scientology minister or Scientology minister in training."


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An Auditor is a minister or minister in training of the Church of Scientology.


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All Auditors are required to be ordained ministers of the Church of Scientology.


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Likewise, it is a prerequisite to for permanent certification as an Auditor that to become an ordained minister in the Church of Scientology.


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Query: Does the Church of Scientology allow a Scientology Minister and Class 4 Auditor to also be a Christian and promote themselves as a "Christian Scientologist'?

Does any MAGA friendly Christian church allow a member to also be a Scientology Minister and Class 4 Auditor and promote themselves as a "Christian Scientologist'?

Asking for someone who is not a friend. :cool:

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Dotey OT

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Query: Does the Church of Scientology allow a Scientology Minister and Class 4 Auditor to also be a Christian and promote themselves as a "Christian Scientologist'?

Does any MAGA friendly Christian church allow a member to also be a Scientology Minister and Class 4 Auditor and promote themselves as a "Christian Scientologist'?

Asking for someone who is not a friend. :cool:

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Yes to the first part. I'd the class iv auditor wanted to promote that they were a Christian scientologist, they would be able to do that with some caveats. Promoting outside of current parishioners to "wogs" inorder to make the so-called religion all inclusive, sure. Go for it.

Being raised a Christian, and being in a variety of churches, real churches, I believe it depends on the church.

I do not understand the significance of MAGA. Here.

Are you using MAGA in a derogatory way?
 

ISNOINews

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I do not understand the significance of MAGA. Here.

Are you using MAGA in a derogatory way?
I am not using MAGA in a derogatory way. I referred to MAGA for two reasons.

First; Villa's primary, if not only, political audience is the MAGA Community.

Second, the MAGA Community is associated with more conservative Christian churches. Being concerned only with her audience in the MAGA Community, Villa would naturally be concerned only about such churches and parishioners. I was trying to exclude liberal Christian churches and parishioners who aren't part of the MAGA Community, wouldn't support Villa anyway, and whom Villa therefore doesn't care about.

No disrespect intended.

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HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
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Query: Does the Church of Scientology allow a Scientology Minister and Class 4 Auditor to also be a Christian and promote themselves as a "Christian Scientologist'?
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Since you are asking that, I guess it might be safe to assume you were never a Scientologist.

ANSWER: The Church of Scientology does allow that. As long as the individual pretending to be a Christian-Scientologist:

1. produces new recruits for the cult that contribute money and/or time.​
2. does not get caught lying in any way that harms Scientology's gaslighting campaigns.​
For purposes of clarification, the cult "cult"ivates liars and endorses/celebrates any time a parishioner makes it go right to control homo sapiens by any means necessary. Hubbard defines public relations as the "prediction and control of human emotions and reactions". However, any Scientology fraudster who gets busted publicly is slammed with swift and ruthless justice punishments, based on senior management's senior policy:

THE SUPREME TEST OF A SCIENTOLOGIST IS TO MAKE IT GO RIGHT
(TO NOT GET CAUGHT DECEIVING OTHERS AND/OR SELF)

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ISNOINews

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Since you are asking that, I guess it might be safe to assume you were never a Scientologist.

ANSWER: The Church of Scientology does allow that. As long as the individual pretending to be a Christian-Scientologist:

1. produces new recruits for the cult that contribute money and/or time.​
2. does not get caught lying in any way that harms Scientology's gaslighting campaigns.​
For purposes of clarification, the cult "cult"ivates liars and endorses/celebrates any time a parishioner makes it go right to control homo sapiens by any means necessary. Hubbard defines public relations as the "prediction and control of human emotions and reactions". However, any Scientology fraudster who gets busted publicly is slammed with swift and ruthless justice punishments, based on senior management's senior policy:

THE SUPREME TEST OF A SCIENTOLOGIST IS TO MAKE IT GO RIGHT
(TO NOT GET CAUGHT DECEIVING OTHERS AND/OR SELF)

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I am am ex-Scientologist. I knew and assumed all of that. I should have asked a more precise question:

Does the Church of Scientology allow a Scientology Minister and Class 4 Auditor to also be a Christian and promote themselves as a "Christian Scientologist when there is no Div. 6, PR or "raw public" purpose, and the only percipient witnesses are devoted, on-lines Scientologists?

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Dotey OT

Dis-Membered
I am not using MAGA in a derogatory way. I referred to MAGA for two reasons.

First; Villa's primary, if not only, political audience is the MAGA Community.

Second, the MAGA Community is associated with more conservative Christian churches. Being concerned only with her audience in the MAGA Community, Villa would naturally be concerned only about such churches and parishioners. I was trying to exclude liberal Christian churches and parishioners who aren't part of the MAGA Community, wouldn't support Villa anyway, and whom Villa therefore doesn't care about.

No disrespect intended.

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I'm not a MAGA person. No worries. Just curious. I don't have much connection to Christian churches anymore. I still am curious if Christians identify as MAGA in any way?
 

Dotey OT

Dis-Membered
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Since you are asking that, I guess it might be safe to assume you were never a Scientologist.

ANSWER: The Church of Scientology does allow that. As long as the individual pretending to be a Christian-Scientologist:

1. produces new recruits for the cult that contribute money and/or time.​
2. does not get caught lying in any way that harms Scientology's gaslighting campaigns.​
For purposes of clarification, the cult "cult"ivates liars and endorses/celebrates any time a parishioner makes it go right to control homo sapiens by any means necessary. Hubbard defines public relations as the "prediction and control of human emotions and reactions". However, any Scientology fraudster who gets busted publicly is slammed with swift and ruthless justice punishments, based on senior management's senior policy:

THE SUPREME TEST OF A SCIENTOLOGIST IS TO MAKE IT GO RIGHT
(TO NOT GET CAUGHT DECEIVING OTHERS AND/OR SELF)

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One very important point to make is this:

If you do anything where you make it known you are a scientologist, DO NOT do or say anything that could make the choich look bad in any way, meaning in any way whatsoever.

Penalties apply here, very very much so.

I know someone that was involved in an applied scholastics project that flapped, and the right to do business in that state was lost for a couple of years. The amount of amends required was way out of proportion to the loss. As usual, anything done (such as this incident) was the most horrible thing that could have happened because it was connected to the cult.
 

ISNOINews

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I'm not a MAGA person. No worries. Just curious. I don't have much connection to Christian churches anymore. I still am curious if Christians identify as MAGA in any way?
Many conservative Christians do identify as MAGA. If you did a Venn diagram, there would be a large degree of overlap. The circles would of course not be concentric.

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programmer_guy

True ex-Scientologist
Has Joy Villa ever read/heard anything that Hubbard had said about Jesus (Yeshua)?
If she did has she ever said anything about that particular item?
 

ISNOINews

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Has Joy Villa ever read/heard anything that Hubbard had said about Jesus (Yeshua)?
If she did has she ever said anything about that particular item?
I don't know if Joy Villa ever read/heard anything that Hubbard had said about Jesus (Yeshua).

Villa has never said anything about what Hubbard had said about Jesus (Yeshua).

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Karakorum

Well-known member
This one is hilarious.

Also, it struck me as odd that Aaron didn't point out how out-PR her whole tweet saga was. Maybe that's because he was thinking about a chiefly non-scientology audience and felt that the weirdness and creepiness of her posts is enough.
 

ISNOINews

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Further evidence from Mike Rinder that Scientology Gold Meritorious Joy Villa is a Scientology Class 4 Auditor, and therefore, per the OP, a Scientology Minister or Minister in Training.

[Gold Meritorious = $1 million cumulative donation to Scientology.]


Joy Villa Scientology Fame Whore Gets Her (Next) Man



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Karakorum

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[Gold Meritorious = $1 million cumulative donation to Scientology.]
As far as I know, it was her ex-huband/2d that forked out that cash. She was just along for the ride :eyeroll:
 

Dotey OT

Dis-Membered
Further evidence from Mike Rinder that Scientology Gold Meritorious Joy Villa is a Scientology Class 4 Auditor, and therefore, per the OP, a Scientology Minister or Minister in Training.

[Gold Meritorious = $1 million cumulative donation to Scientology.]


Joy Villa Scientology Fame Whore Gets Her (Next) Man



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She is the poster child for the idea that one must always be at "cheerfulness or above" and all that goes with that.

I give it six months. Start the timer.
 

Karakorum

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Dotey OT

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Does anyone have the correct dates in regards to her 2D non-e and the success story declaration? Like how long was that?
 

ISNOINews

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Does anyone have the correct dates in regards to her 2D non-e and the success story declaration? Like how long was that?
Exact dates are not available. Here are the available relevant data points:

8/26/21 or am earlier Thursday: Villa non-E on the 2D Scientology group post.

9/7/21: Villa public Facebook post about new relationship.

9/12/22: Mike Rinder story about private Scientology group post about new relationship.

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Dotey OT

Dis-Membered
My wife is a member of that Facebook group. Funny, huh!

The announcement of the new relationship was six days ago, Sept 7.

The earlier non-e was on August 26.

Turns out my wife is a member of a boat load of Scn Facebook groups. I'm gonna be busy.
 
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