Boston

[Reyne Mayer]

oh, and i realized their new location is actually in Allston, about a mile from their idle morgue building.

i checked records and the vacant property that they bought at the end of 2015 turns out to be tax exempt, though if they leave it sit too long like they have so many others, they'll end up paying commercial rates -- that happened with the Hotel Alexandra that they'd previously bought (and only finally succeeded in selling a couple of years ago), which ought to be a precedent that Boston should treat the CoS more like a real estate holding company than a religion.....

i also sorted out just what's going on with the property, and this view of the back side fully shows two other adjacent single and double story buildings that they also own according to the records. i wonder if at least one of those is full of old CF -- or even squatting staff. and what did they have in mind, some sort of Northeast regional HQ? it looks like the main building is the requisite 50k sq ft for an idle morgue, while the other buildings are about 4k and 13k sq ft.

 

[myrklix]

Article in the Globe about the old Alexandra Hotel finally, likely getting developed. They don't mention that the Boston org once owned it for a bit before buying the isolated office building in the Allston neighborhood which has been sitting empty for many years.

New life for old plans to revive the long-empty Alexandra Hotel

Plans to convert the long-abandoned hotel on Mass. Ave. into condos just cleared their final city approval. Next up? Financing.

www.boston.com

 

[Reyne Mayer]

Article in the Globe about the old Alexandra Hotel finally, likely getting developed. They don't mention that the Boston org once owned it for a bit before buying the isolated office building in the Allston neighborhood which has been sitting empty for many years.

New life for old plans to revive the long-empty Alexandra Hotel

Plans to convert the long-abandoned hotel on Mass. Ave. into condos just cleared their final city approval. Next up? Financing.

www.boston.com

they owned it for a long time, i don't have my notes on the device i'm traveling with, but i'm reasonably sure it's one of the whole slew of ones they bought at the peak of the real estate bubble in 2007, and have then had trouble unloading in the cases like Boston where they changed plans - at least one deal fell through, and the final one contingent i think on planning approval didn't go through until just a couple of years ago, so they owned it for a dozen years or more, overlapping with the purchase of the property in Allston that is of course still languishing for probably now the better part of a decade itself....

 

[myrklix]

Get a load of this:
On the Boston Org website (if you can call it that), it still lists a Boston address even though they relocated to Quincy, Mass., years ago. Then go to the 'directions' page and it'll show a map of the location in Quincy even though it shows the Boston address. I suppose someone should get Comm-Ev'd. Actually, this address might be an office they have at Packard's Corner (the "big bend") on Comm. Ave. right near B.U.

Map & Directions | Church of Scientology of Boston

1105 Commonwealth Ave., Suite 202, Boston, MA 02215, United States

www.scientology-boston.org

 

[Reyne Mayer]

Actually, this address might be an office they have at Packard's Corner (the "big bend") on right near B.U.

Map & Directions | Church of Scientology of Boston

1105 Commonwealth Ave., Suite 202, Boston, MA 02215, United States

www.scientology-boston.org

yes, Comm. Ave. it's the new-new 'temporary' location i posted about on the last page: https://exscn2.net/threads/boston.219/post-142119

 

[Enthetan]

Get a load of this:
On the Boston Org website (if you can call it that), it still lists a Boston address even though they relocated to Quincy, Mass., years ago. Then go to the 'directions' page and it'll show a map of the location in Quincy even though it shows the Boston address. I suppose someone should get Comm-Ev'd. Actually, this address might be an office they have at Packard's Corner (the "big bend") on Comm. Ave. right near B.U.

Map & Directions | Church of Scientology of Boston

1105 Commonwealth Ave., Suite 202, Boston, MA 02215, United States

www.scientology-boston.org

Their Yelp page still lists them at Suite 202. I wonder if they have a mail-forwarding arrangement with the building?

Church Of Scientology - Allston, MA

Established in 1954.

www.yelp.com

The Yelp comments are amusing

UPDATE: Going to Google Maps and getting a street view for that address (1105 Commonwealth Ave Boston MA 02215) shows a sign about getting a free personality test (To the right of the "Cash 4 Gold" place), with the pic having been taken October 2022, so maybe they retained the old space to some degree. It seems like a very small space, just big enough for a Div 6 outpost.

 

[Reyne Mayer]

they relocated to Quincy, Mass., years ago

i should have been clear, they moved down south there after they gave up their old mansion in the central city, Beacon Hill i think. i visited one time when i had a chance to go that inconveniently far out of the way, and it was on the 3rd and top floor of a building that must have been the cheapest rent in the area, with government social services offices that kept the lobby bathrooms locked and required you to ask them for a key.

1105 Commonwealth Ave Boston MA 02215

but that's their newer 'temporary' location east of central Boston, and not far from the idle morgue building, that they moved to in the last couple of years. they took over the second floor space from a company that had provided classes targeted at foreigners, that went out of business during the pandemic.

their 8 year trip around the Boston area - ending up barely 2 miles from where they started (i bet the inconvenience of moving 10 miles of heavy traffic congestion south for so many years, cost them some members):

 

[Operating Wog]

I have such mixed feelings about what happened with the Boston org.

On one hand I've been out for 20+ years and I'm happy that fewer and fewer people are being sucked in there.

On the other hand, I was in that Beacon Street building every day for nearly two decades, at some points virtually living there (and at some points literally living there). Many days and hours when I saw it totally bustling. Many many hours when I was only one of two people in the building all night long. I had an "office" on every floor at one time or another (maybe not the 5th). I probably slept in more than half the rooms and probably cleaned most of them and painted a good percent of them. To this day I can take a virtual walk through almost every inch of that building in my mind. Many great memories. Just as many awful ones. It was more of a "home" than anywhere else I lived during that period.

It just makes me sad that they destroyed all that chasing some stupid dream of an ideal org and winding up in second rate commercial rented spaces.

 

[myrklix]

I happened to be in Quincy the other day and had a few extra minutes to go to 1515 Hancock St. There was no sign of anything Scn-related from the outside so I went into the lobby of the building. On the board listing all the tenants there was no scientology on any floor. I'd say they're gone from Quincy and all that (might) remain is that dinky space in Packard's Corner on Comm. Ave. in Boston as mentioned above in this thread.

On the Boston org website it lists the Comm. Ave. address but a map points to the Quincy location. But when clicking on "get directions" it opens up the Comm. Ave. address. Uggh!

 

[Isaac]

I've heard similar from another who also worked closely with Heather.

I didn't have much interaction with her when she was ED. Only as I indicated above. Plus in the early years I took a drive up to Toronto with her, Jon DeVries, Cary Goulston, and I believe Janet Francis as well. We spent some time up there while getting trained by some of the Div 6 staff in Toronto to sell books up there, and it was really a fun trip. Then later her and I were on the TTC together for some months in the early 80's back when it was at Miami Org. So I never saw the side of her that you did (thank Xenu!)

It seemed that the tactics she used, the "screaming and swearing in your face" were common (and expected) when your seniors were the Sea Org members at the CLO/FOLO in New York. I had personal experience with this when I was brought up to New York to help out on the "Festive Season Program" back around 1985. I was expected to get a program done in each of the East U.S. Orgs which was designed to prevent the stats from crashing during the December holidays (when staff and public wanted to spend more time with their family and friends).

I am normally a pretty laid back person but during the 2 weeks helping out on this I found myself screaming at people to get this program done. It was what was expected of me in order to get compliance, and I got a commendation for my work on the program from the Cont Commander who knew exactly what I was doing as I was stationed directly outside of his office. Several of the S.O. members there tried to recruit me for the S.O. before I came back to Boston. Looking back at it all now I see it was really out of character for me in how I deal with people as a manager.

Also, people who were mission holders in the EUS and had to deal with Cary Goulston when he was the CO SMI EUS said that he was horrible in that regard. He'd call you up and scream at you for half an hour!

I believe upper management screams and cussed at those below them…
Then shit rolls downhill.
Others mimicking the valence that works to survive in that toxic shitshow environment

 

[Reyne Mayer]

I happened to be in Quincy the other day and had a few extra minutes to go to 1515 Hancock St. There was no sign of anything Scn-related from the outside so I went into the lobby of the building. On the board listing all the tenants there was no scientology on any floor. I'd say they're gone from Quincy and all that (might) remain is that dinky space in Packard's Corner on Comm. Ave. in Boston as mentioned above in this thread.

i had visited 5 or more years ago when they were still there. they were up on the third floor, and there was even some sort of sign on the main door about how to get in after hours, related to the purif i think. it was inconveniently out of the way down South of Boston, in a building that had government services offices on the first floor and so must have been cheap to lease.

i could not find anything like leasing listings showing square footage for the Packard's Corner space they moved to, though it looked like it could be a pretty good sized top floor of a commercial building if they have the whole thing. do you know anything about what the space is really like?