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You obviously don't know Heather or you wouldn't say that.
soft muscled obese woman. now i understand that scn staff members can feel pain, especially when they have been weakened by years of poor nutrition and no exercise. but i also see today, on a regular basis, men and women moving hundreds of pounds of weights with barely any effort. an angry unintentional backhanded slap, would end the life of the common scn staff member, or OT public, including the child miscavige. it's just physics.
 

freethinker

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soft muscled obese woman. now i understand that scn staff members can feel pain, especially when they have been weakened by years of poor nutrition and no exercise. but i also see today, on a regular basis, men and women moving hundreds of pounds of weights with barely any effort. an angry unintentional backhanded slap, would end the life of the common scn staff member, or OT public, including the child miscavige. it's just physics.
You presume she always looked like that. Were you ever in Scientology or did you just read up on the "Hole" from various authors who were in the SO at Int base? She had, I believe three other sisters and she was the shortest. Not all staff were, or are, as you describe. Many had jobs outside of Scientology while being on staff. Class 5 org staff was very different from the SO. Miscavige worked out all the time, or used to.

Most stories on the internet are SO stories as they received the most abuse because they were far from home and had little money. Class 5 usually didn't live that far from the org but didn't live at the org and could more easily leave whenever they wanted to. Blowing class 5 orgs happened far more often than in the SO and they usually didn't receive as much abuse before they decided to leave. Much easier to blow a Class 5 than an SO org. Class 5's usually didn't have the manpower or resources to chase you down as they were too busy complying with stats. Easier to get newbies than recover blown staff.
 

freethinker

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Any of you guys know Erik Bayersdorfer?
You know Erik? I used to work with him. We didn't get along. He was always on a power trip but I don't think he held a high post for very long. he was reno's I/C for a time.
 

Dotey OT

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You know Erik? I used to work with him. We didn't get along. He was always on a power trip but I don't think he held a high post for very long. he was reno's I/C for a time.
I do know him. I worked with him after he left Boston. Scientology tends to make an asshole out of someone that has that potential, if you know what I mean. I think he has his own consulting biz in CW now. I wonder how that is going???

Owner & President
Company Name
EB&A LLC
Dates EmployedApr 2017 – Present
Employment Duration3 yrs 3 mos
LocationTampa/St. Petersburg, Florida Area


Erik has been a business consultant, achievement coach and international speaker since 2006. Erik specializes in finding and using the most effective tools possible to bring about improved conditions for his clients and associates. His style goes beyond motivational – he makes sure that his clients can apply the information and get measurable results.

Erik graduated from Greensboro College, Greensboro, NC, with a Bachelor of Science degree in sociology. He then attended Whittier College in Whittier, CA, to pursue his graduate degree in Educational Administration.


I think EB&A stands for Erik Bayersdorfer and Abbi, his wife. Improved conditions. Kool-aid.
 
Erik always seemed like an ok guy to me. But I never worked closely with him. As I recall he was one of those people who were deemed and "illegal pc" and then deemed ok and was on staff and then became illegal again... or something along those lines.
That kind of thing happened so often. If you had a bunch of money and wanted auditing, or they needed someone on staff bad enough and you were willing, there was always someone willing to reinterpret the policies and take your money or sign you up. Then a few years later someone else would re-reinterpret them and you were illegal again. (Didn't happen to me, but saw it over and over.)
 

freethinker

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Erik always seemed like an ok guy to me. But I never worked closely with him. As I recall he was one of those people who were deemed and "illegal pc" and then deemed ok and was on staff and then became illegal again... or something along those lines.
That kind of thing happened so often. If you had a bunch of money and wanted auditing, or they needed someone on staff bad enough and you were willing, there was always someone willing to reinterpret the policies and take your money or sign you up. Then a few years later someone else would re-reinterpret them and you were illegal again. (Didn't happen to me, but saw it over and over.)
They tried that with me, you know that.
 
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