As-Isness, Alter-Isness, Is-ness. Not-Isness

Veda

Well-known member
Crowley's correspondences between the Hebrew Kabbalistic Tree of Life,
and the eight tri-grams of the Chinese Book of Changes


Hubbard's simplified, and reworked the four components of the Tree of Life: the Kabbalistic Tetragrammaton, the four basic and successive postulations of the/a Life force.

The four fundamental ingredients of existence, so the idea goes.

Which, oddly enough, correspond with the four bi-grams, of the ancient Chinese Book of Changes:

Hubbard's Scientology Axioms are based largely on his mechanistic extrapolation from these four primordial conditions.

Which derive from the two primordial conditions: Yang and Yin, which derive from the great mystery - a nothingness with infinite potential.

We'll probably never know the extent to which Hubbard's "Axioms," and many of his other ideas, were inspired by his late night conversations with self taught chemist and rocket scientist Jack Parsons. No doubt Hubbard was aware of Crowley's "Theorems of Magick," and possibly aware of Nordenholz' Scientologie and its Axioms.


Painting by Patricia Waldygo


The top corresponds with Scientology's Static, the next two, lower, correspond with Scientology's As-isness and Alter-isness, next is a collection that corresponds with Is-ness, and the bottom corresponds with Not-Isness.

Many of Scientology's scales, as well as its The Factors, and even the Scientology symbol of the "S with the double triangle," derive from these earlier sources, notably through the writings of Aleister Crowley.

Some were lured into Scientology by exposure to these things.

While explanations can, sometimes, seem strange, they can also loosen the glue that holds a person to Scientology.




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F.Bullbait

Wise Guy
Issy wassy wasn’t there

Issy wassy didn’t care

Issy wassy wasn’t really was he?
 

Cat's Squirrel

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Are Hubbard's ingredients of existence straight derivations from Yin and Yang though? As I understand it, not-isness is an aberrant effort (an attempt to put out of existence something that is actually there), whereas Yin and Yang (both static and moving) correspond to states of reality.
 

Veda

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Are Hubbard's ingredients of existence straight derivations from Yin and Yang though?
Of course not. It was filtered through Crowley who was fascinated with the correspondences between an ancient Chinese, mathematically based, book of wisdom, and the ancient Kabbala.

The book of wisdom survives as a fortunetelling device, just as the much less pure (and long adulterated) Tarot survives as a fortunetelling device and, also, as a deck of playing cards. There is a tendency for noble things to degrade to a vulgar level. The plus side of that tendency is that, at least, they continue to exist in some form.

After Hubbard had lost Dianetics in bankruptcy court, and the Dianetics fad had faded, Hubbard needed something new with which to "fill the seats" (think P.T. Barnum). He had to create a new subject. He "borrowed" heavily from Crowley to do so.

As I understand it, not-isness is an aberrant effort (an attempt to put out of existence something that is actually there), whereas Yin and Yang (both static and moving) correspond to states of reality.
Hubbard's re-working of the tetragrammaton (the four successive manifestations of the unmanifest infinite-no-thing) was simplistic and mechanistic. It served his purposes. It didn't much interest him except as a gimmick, and as something to add to his new system of thought and therapy to give it some gravitas and respectability.

By the time it had filtered down to Scientologists, it's pretty much as you describe. It's not the Scientologists' fault. This is what Hubbard gave them.
 

Ed8

Active member
As-Isness, Alter-Isness, Is-ness are a triangle.

Anyone who is familiar with the grades should know that a 'not-' is a negative opposite a positive. Therefore Not-Isness is the negative of Isness.

The triangle poles:
Isness (white) / Not-Isness (invisible or black)
As-Isness (erasure, transparent) / Not-Asisness (a persistence)
Alter-Isness (change) / Not-Alter-Isness (timestop)

The union of the triangle is Duplication / Non-Duplication.

I'm happy to say I discovered this as a triangle AFTER I left the Church, and AFTER LRH died. Otherwise he would have claimed it as his own discovery. I have published the triangle in a book in pdf form.
 

Ed8

Active member
And just for the record, John McMaster's Grade 5 processes are incomplete. isness/not-isness is the Existence process, but to process this area fully would require to also process:
Tell me something as-is? Tell me something not as-is (or tell me a persistence)
Tell me something alter-is (tell me something that changes). Tell me something not alter-is (or tell me something timeless)
Tell me a duplication. Tell me a non-duplication.

Those plus the Existence process would process the entire triangle.
Ed
 
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