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  1. Karakorum

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    I don't remember anything about OT abilities in the B2 materials I read inside. There were some people in OSA who @Karen#1 described as "deep kool aid drinkers", but I don't recall anyone from OSA mentioning an operational use of OT powers. I can only imagine that the day-to-day pragmatism for...
  2. Karakorum

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    I doubt he would want to be un-ignored either..
  3. Karakorum

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    No not really. HH started accusing me in public of being some sockpuppet/frontman of the banned Alanzo and/or Marty's team of OSA clowns and he was spreading lies that my PMs to him somehow confirm this. I replied that I'd more than happy to publish our entire PM conversation for all to see if...
  4. Karakorum

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    Yeah I know, Davey is trying to wage war on all ex-members and all critics and pretty much on everyone in this sector in the galaxy. He he will lose sooner or later, though I have no idea what Ben Franklin has to do with it. I would hope that Franklin, if he lived today, would have enough...
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    Take him off the ignore list without an official apology letter and him completing an amends project? Who do you think I am? ;) I don't want to go back to this thing and stir the pot, we've all been through it before more than once. Suffice to say that of all the weird, unfriendly and sometimes...
  6. Karakorum

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    What about great humanitarian then? ;P
  7. Karakorum

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    It would be, if we assume that Hubbard was an entirely cynical conman. Thing is - I don't think that he was that. Looking at the evidence, I think he honestly believed in a large part of his own nonsense, BTs and postulates and all. I don't think he ever fully deprogrammed himself out of...
  8. Karakorum

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    I was formally clear. With my imperfect eyesight and bad memory and all that. :D I think that is going to far. I'm under the impression that there were a lot of happy people in the 50s and early 60s. There might still be some happy people in the modern era (FSMs?), though almost certainly not...
  9. Karakorum

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    Well to be fair, a lot of that is directly caused by CoS policy. People don't want to have hate websites made about them, they don't want rotten meat or sex toys sent to their work address, they don't want to have their pets poisoned, they don't want their kids to be harassed on their way from...
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    I'd say it exactly is the other way around. 'Hard' scientology is harmful and the scn environment like the SO is just abusive. Those who experience harm and abuse will naturally be hostile towards the source of said harm and abuse. The fact that there are so many dissenters and critics doesn't...
  11. Karakorum

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    I am. Feel free to talk, I think I can offer a relatively unemotional and level-headed debate if needed. A lot of people here have had... more than 'slightly' negative experiences with the tech or Co$ in general. Some most likely will have PTSD. The Sea Org produces a lot of "engrams" to use...
  12. Karakorum

    Looking for someone... Could you all just chill?

    I have. “There’s a game called freedom,” which is what you’re playing right at this minute. (...) The Maker of Games, he has no rules, he runs by no rules. The player of the games, rules known but he obeys them. And the assistant players merely obey the players. And the pieces obey rules...
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