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  1. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    You can see the young Mike and Jack similarity.
  2. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    The Hubbard writings telling the Scientology PR trainees and staffs what to do, is outrageous proof how sabotaging Hubbard was to them all. They are beyond the beyond stuck holding Hubbard's bag of nuttery. Hubbard's writings just devastatingly detail how bad of a situation they will be stuck...
  3. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    The only place that Hubbard kind of discusses the backfiring PR effect as a kind of "successful" technique, is in the Mission Earth books, where the flawed PR man does that type of backfiring PR work. Never mentions Streisand Effect though, just backfiring PR man character comically portrayed...
  4. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    I hope MIke's book invites any current OSA Int staffers and DSA staffers to defect out of their jobs. Hoax, What do you think about the smear campaign on Mike? To me it's obvious they are misdirecting and falsely blaming MIke with the factual story that is Miscavige's actual violence history...
  5. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    Yes, yes, to all you said. It's a world of "verbal tech" and critical discussion in the real world, that is disallowed within the Hubbard organizations which teach the Hubbard soul theories, and Hubbard's rules disallow veering off of the Hubbard world salvaging pseudo-therapy/"body-thetans"...
  6. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    Thanks. Very excellent points, although also, some persons might be incautious about the backlash they will suffer, in terms of lost business and lost business partners (employers or employees or allies), because they lurk on a chat site, and somehow that leads to them being outed. I presume...
  7. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    You are right, I am not tracking with your point which I fail to get. Maybe try to explain this for me please. Should anyone NOT ask at all, for others, who frequent this chat site, any questions about their history in Scientology course rooms. I was a Flag Course Sup, for instance, and I'm...
  8. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    Another thought, about the Cathy ex wife cry wolf arm damage story she is running, is to deflect off of the blockbuster first person material Mike will have in his book, that tells David Miscavige beat Mike dozens and dozens of times. The amount of times David Miscavige struck Mike Rinder is...
  9. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    So bad. I cannot read more than a half of a sentence of any of Scientology's OSA wordsmiths' deadagenting writings before I'm forced to put down the material. It's worse than the tackiest Russian GRU disinformation, and Scientology's only has a tiny bit better spelling and grammar. The one...
  10. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    ON Mike's book, does anyone know whose gotten advance copies and whose talking about it? Mike's book, it will be excellent I'm sure, and John Swenney has given it a devastating positive endorsement.
  11. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    Excellent stuff you posted. Instantly made me think of how Jamie DeWolf grasps Scientology, via his Grandfather's stories about Great Grandfather L. Ron Hubbard Senior. Have you heard the podcast Tony Ortega did with Jamie the other day? And Jamie's past YouTube videos on LRH Snr and LRH...
  12. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    I'm not up on OSA's ruining your life, sorry to hear this. And I'm not clear from what I read, but are you saying your name was posted somewhere and that's how OSA then saw you'd "crossed the line" and then did their nastiness and ruined your friendships and business that had to then...
  13. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    The "OSA target" thing, LOL, thankfully I detailed what happened to me, as I left Sea Org, got on the chat sites in 2004 (I left in 2003) and just dealt with it. I went to work for a Newspaper knowing OSA would be hesitant to have PIs do anything drastic, since I'd just tell my Newspaper...
  14. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    Karen, That story could be dug up more, those two FBI agents will retire someday, and loads of ex FBI write books, do podcasts, share their hindsights and reveal oddities and shortcomings of their agency. I'm pro FBI, pro US Govt agencies, today, in my old age. I read loads of ex CIA career...
  15. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    Fair enough. Back when I was on the chat sites, constantly for years, in the 2004 onwards time period when I used to post voluminously, sharing how people's friends and family members were doing, which positions they were on, etc, is and was and likely always will be of interest. People used...
  16. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    Hey, are there any ex recent quitters from Sea Org from PAC Orgs or from the HGB orgs, do you know? I want to get some updates on who's left, name names and all, especially PAC in CLO WUS specifically, and in Estates. I left RPF in PAC in 2003 and left LA in 2004, and followed things pretty...
  17. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    Yes, of course. But in that vein, sticking to the Hubbard "Guardian" or head of OSA "hat" job, for the movement, then Mike's kind of like Jane Kember, or Mike's forbears in OSA Int even, I think Mike Sutter was CO OSA Int for a stretch there, for much shorter time. Also Andy Hutton was CO OSA...
  18. Chuck Beatty x 75-02

    Mike Rinder book ~~ less than a month away, it coming soon.

    I pre ordered both audio and kindle and hardback. Mike's carrying on a long tradition of ex PR people from cults, speaking up. Priors were Laurel Watson, Vaughn Young and now Mike. And even the woman who was LRH's PR in the 1950s, Barbara Kay, she's the original to speak up. Her and Laurel...
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