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    Ron the Hypnotist

    I agree with what you say, except that Hubbard actually wanted to help people. If you read letters he wrote when he was putting dns together, he's way more interested in how much money he can make and how he can control people. (Search for "Forrest Ackerman" at tonyortega.org if you need to see...
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    Ron the Hypnotist

    Hubbard was apparently a good enough hypnotist to hypnotize a willing subject. The original dianetic technique WAS hypnosis. Campbell, Winter, Rogers, etc. knowingly ALLOWED Hubbard to hypnotize them as dianetic pc's. Hubbard only changed it to "dianetic reverie" when he wrote DMSMH because he...
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    Ron the Hypnotist

    I thought the name McClaughry was familiar ... https://www.forum.exscn.net/threads/mike-mcclaughry.25551/
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    Ron the Hypnotist

    Note that "St. Elizabeth's" is easily confused with Elizabeth, N. J., which was the site of the first Hubbard Dianetic Research Foundation. St. Elizabeth's Hospital is where Hubbard claimed to have spent time as a patient while "crippled and blinded" after WW II. (In fact, I confused the two the...
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    Ron the Hypnotist

    Here's Jon Atack reading his paper "Never Believe A Hypnotist." (New video posted Feb 4, 2020.) You can read the paper yourself here, useful as you can see the many references Jon cites. http://home.snafu.de/tilman/j/hypnosis.html I found the entire paper interesting, and thought this was...
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    Ron the Hypnotist

    Is that "without using hypnosis" a typo, @programmer_guy? Hubbard himself said he used hypnosis during the development stage of dianetics, in DMSMH. Don Rogers, who was there during the development stage, said the original technique was straight hypnosis. (See the Don Rogers letters at the...
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