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  1. Dotey OT

    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    Scientology: The world's fastest shrinking religion!!
  2. Dotey OT

    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    I don't think you are brainwashed, or a kool-aid drinker. I think that I could communicate to a group of people where I said that I was, at one time, a kool-aid drinker of monster proportions, and did things that people here might say "what a damn kool-aid drinker he was," and they would be...
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    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    I have seen more 2nd gen kids leave than stay. There are some exceptions, but what you say is true. When I was in the EPF, I met a Russian kid that was nearing doing the FRU at flag. He confided to me that he was uncertain about never having kids. He wanted that experience, but there he was...
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    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    Listening to Ian Rafalko today, more data that they are using the kids to try to staff the orgs because it's tough to find anyone else. My experience with the 2nd gen kids at that they had not been given a normal childhood. If there is something of a normal childhood, being raised in...
  5. Dotey OT

    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    God that is a weird thought, but could be. They know how to raise money, they can attract an affluent and easily persuaded (I didn't want to use the word "gullible") clientele. In 2075, it will be housed in large, empty buildings manned by monks, I mean able bodied seamen. (Now, if I could...
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    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    The report from the supervisor at Atlanta, and he is so proud, there are three people doing the student hat. I did not ask details, so I would believe that these people probably are not on a full time schedule. He also did not identify if those people were staff or public. I know this person...
  7. Dotey OT

    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    I agree. Many of the people I know doing bridge now are 2nd gen. There are a few that I know that got in late 80's or were influenced by a parent that got in, but not raised in it. Odd that the ideal org evolution appears to have gone something like this: - DM gets an idea, purposes and...
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    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    I hear you. I am trying to look at it logically, so oops. So glad that whatever we went through shook us loose. THE FACTORS!! The factors, well the factors that led me out. Slowly but eventually: Lrh saying something that contradicts something HE said before Looking for something that...
  9. Dotey OT

    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    I have been unpleasantly surprised. Many people that I thought would have been out of scn are not. In fact, many who weren't very active have become active. Makes me sad to think that some are in the final group of bridge travelers. In spite of all the bad press, all the lingering...
  10. Dotey OT

    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    I can only imagine. All this craziness in the world is only fodder for "Look what can happen on this crazy planet!! You had better get yourself through OT3 or your brief chance blah blah blah." Although it is going to be hard to convince everyone that if there is no income = the choich...
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    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    Everyone seems to be getting more active. I get more letters recently, and more calls. I know a few people that are planning the trip to flag.
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    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    I am around currently active scamatologists. They are all still marching in place, as it were. The staff members look bored but always have the good word somehow, and don't seem despondent. Idiots. I know guys still working at getting up the bridge. They are still trying to get along, and...
  13. Dotey OT

    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    I occasionally see a new face used in promotion from my old local org, a face I did not know, and I knew most people there for a fairly long while. There is the possibility is they moved in from elsewhere. I am sure the BIS is kaput, or was before the planet began freaking out. That's alright...
  14. Dotey OT

    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    So here is the question. Obviously, we do not have this data. I wish that we did. What are the "people pools" where scamatology gets it's new parishioners? I bet familial 2nd gen + has a higher percentage now than it ever has. I came in through WISE lines, ugh. I know guys that were book...
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    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    I love the work that others have done in estimating how many are in and active. My question now is how many would stay in REGARDLESS of what happened? We have friends that are in and they are broke, overworked, abused, etc. I just don't see them leaving. Most of these people have been in...
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    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    We see more and more that there are a few "old timers" that somehow stay in, regardless of their personal financial disasters or all of the "redo this" admonitions of the CO$ (I always hated to see that CO$ when I was drinking the Kool-Aid, now here I am using it!!). I looked at the...
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    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    I like the "under the blanket" reference!! Under the radar, under the blanket, those beat under the influence!! I'm over it!!! In a very daring move, I approached an old friend that had been in since 1995. We had been on staff together for some years, and were good friends, but he had moved...
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    Is There A Base Population In The Scn. Cult That Would Exist Regardless Of What Happens?

    Thinking more about this recently. I know some long time scamatologists (Twenty to thirty years) that are just now moving onto the OT levels, or have moved onto them recently. People that, for whatever reason, had never made bridge progress until within the last ten years, or less. Just the...
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