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  1. Hatshepsut

    OT VIII "Confidential" Student Briefing

    HelluvaHoax said :cool: I felt the level must be about decisions to Not Know. From a Zen perspective, you are either operating from a condition of mind or "no mind". Harry Palmer has gone TAO with the AVATAR procedures. His first process was a discreation process for any identities or...
  2. Hatshepsut

    OT VIII "Confidential" Student Briefing

    Wow! It was trimmed down. Thanks Caroline. You sure know where some bones are hidden. I think it's a little too complicated the way it's put. On the PDC course there was a tape or two on memory. One title was Memory__Not Human Memory. I think it had to do with anchor points. Made sense to me...
  3. Hatshepsut

    OT VIII "Confidential" Student Briefing

    \ I later took the term, "identity" to include 'condition of beng' or the situation one found himself in. Like, 'full of fraught and peril' would be WHAT the being was or the situation he identified with. This worked for me on the main Power Process. The question being Tell Me an existing...
  4. Hatshepsut

    OT VIII "Confidential" Student Briefing

    I've seen the recap summaries on the net. Folks just made a list of the steps they did and shared their info after leaving the C of S. I don't think any actual Course Pack is to be found though.
  5. Hatshepsut

    OT VIII "Confidential" Student Briefing

    In a message exchange I had with Trey Lotz last year, he said a lot of people actually felt they had gains on OT VIII. He's of the opinion though that the Fishman doc is some concoction.
  6. Hatshepsut

    OT VIII "Confidential" Student Briefing

    Historically, the goal of OT 8 has been fraught with duress for some. When one has come down through a chain of beingnesses he can get 'buttered all over the universe'. Trying to pull up your stakes and hit the exit can leave you feeling gnarly, rabid. Messiah or Madman...
  7. Hatshepsut

    OT VIII "Confidential" Student Briefing

    I never understood the deal with 'pictures'. We all have memories. You can get that wheelie thingamajig out from Handbook for Preclears, and a 'file clerk' amazingly provides you any memories related to that topic. ....live streaming.....just keep em coming......these mental associations...
  8. Hatshepsut

    OT VIII "Confidential" Student Briefing

    Yes, that's what I understood when trying to get enough information to do the Abramelin Operation way back when. It's working on cleansing or reintegrating your shadow parts that seem to have their way of getting autonomy. David Griffin is Imperator for Life . The Golden Dawn had a pretty neat...
  9. Hatshepsut

    OT VIII "Confidential" Student Briefing

    I was trying to imagine what you might have been running when this was the situation. Lo and behold several memories came up of when I saw it that way. I was on the Dianetic Clear Special Intensive. I was given the item 'Natural Clear'.....floating TA and all. But it booted me right out of...
  10. Hatshepsut

    OT VIII "Confidential" Student Briefing

    By identity package, I mean theta 'in the valence of' ..or carrying out the automatic function of this or that role. Scripted software. Pathologically disassociated? Been there__after some processes on objectives. I know what you're saying Caroline. But other times, it's just a big release...
  11. Hatshepsut

    OT VIII "Confidential" Student Briefing

    Well, if all identity packages are 'not' us, then I guess everything happened to just them..... our creations. I mean, how would a native Static better experience than by locating part of himself into some Time. It's all vicarious as you have to assume some point of view and not be...
  12. Hatshepsut

    OT VIII "Confidential" Student Briefing

    Eh. It's kinda saying you'll eventually end up in some coincidence of identity with your creations. I actually think the Ron's Orgers are more practical in that they're looking for chains of dominating goals and identity groups that have sway over their underlings still. ( Their OT 8 / Super...
  13. Hatshepsut

    OT VIII "Confidential" Student Briefing

    I always felt the writing style and mindset sounded like the old man. Couldn't understand why others didn't.
  14. Hatshepsut

    OT VIII "Confidential" Student Briefing

    OK. There it IS. LOL. Otay. Thankyou
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