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    What if Hubbard had been honest?

    I do think Hubbard tried to make people Clear and then OT. I actually totally agree with this: "I have long felt that there are dangers to the writer as well as to the reader in pulp fiction. It did not occur to me until I read Dianetics to try to analyze the special dangers entailed in the...
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    What if Hubbard had been honest?

    "For me, life is far too short for tottering around on eggshells, people that try and make me feel that way are surplus to current requirement. " As Trouble said above quote. Oh, the stories I could tell. When she was on the redo of OT 7 because of DM's and his lawyers rhetoric of new found...
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    What if Hubbard had been honest?

    nope, and she doesn't actually know I post here or have on the old ESMB. She still has people in, her best friend. It's complicated. I got her out, but she's a chicken shit. I'm ok with that, We got her bro out, but he still thinks there is some use and he gained from all the auditing and...
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    What if Hubbard had been honest?

    It's pretty clear to me. My wife has no OT abilities, nor clear abilities. Plus I know lots of other so called OT's, not one, really. That's my observation, not some words of interpretation.
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    What if Hubbard had been honest?

    If you recall, HUbbard said The pen is mightier than the sword
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    What if Hubbard had been honest?

    I tried to show them in the Heinlein/Campbell letters. You can read them. The original e-meter was the Volney Emeter, which had scales for Tone or emotions. It wasn't used as a lie detector, but as a emotional response to a question with associated Tone, or emotion, think Hubbards Tone Scale...
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    What if Hubbard had been honest?

    I never said he was honest. I said he used rhetoric, and to be more specific, he used Dean Wilbur's rhetoric. I'm quite aware of everything you replied to me. What everybody is not aware of is the beginning of Dianetics and Hubbard's involvement with Campbell and Heinlein and a bunch of...
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    What if Hubbard had been honest?

    I actually have a different viewpoint. I think hubbard thought he found something that would change the world and free man, and he used rhetoric to persuade people into thinking his was right. Hubbard continued to write and lecture from Dianetics to scientology, using the e-meter as proof, and...
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