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  1. Veda

    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    Your opinion of Napoleon Hill, and especially Dale Carnegie, seems unnecessarily harsh. What's your opinion of As Man Thinketh from 1903?
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    I'll Try again. During the late 1940s, Hubbard wrote in his Affirmations that the psychology he had developed should not be applied to himself, that he was already a Master. According to his oldest son, Ron Jr., who was there through the 1950s, his father felt he should not be audited...
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    Something prevented my post from going through.
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    I would like to know if Freeman has made contact with either Matapsychology or Identics, or with others outside the Scientology organization. Some people here seem to want to drive him into the Scientology organization.
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    The topic is Scientology. The primary objective, on ESMBR, is to help.
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    You're right. Anyone who writes that's he's a big fan of Grant Cardone on a message board deserves to have his life ruined. That makes sense. Not. If ESMB is simply a small group that has pretty much the same opinions, and blows off steam, with each other as the audience, that's a very...
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    True (and funny), except that, as shown by the examples provided in the below "Quit fast" thread, the people - all of whom had some degree of traumatic stress, being, after all, human - never dealt with engrams, whole track implants, SPs, or BTs, and this, so to speak, while being in the belly...
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    Thnaks for the tips on searching the extensive old ESMB archives. Hopefully Freeman, if he's still around, will take a look at some of the above links. There was an earlier time, on old ESMB, when discussions of this kind were routine. I also a hope he checks out Meta Psychology. They offer...
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    I read the original Meta psychology book years ago. It used Dianetic R3R, command by command. This is based on the idea of abreaction, Freud, Korzybski et al. Glanced at 15:37 to 16:04 of the above video. Didn't watch the whole video yet. Did Gerbode actually say "Galactic savior games"...
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    There's a background to that, which was the battle then raging between Scientology and the CADA. Link to A Short History of the California Association of Dianetic Auditors by A. E. van Vogt. Link to Traumatic Incident Reduction Association – An International Association of Practitioners Using...
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    A list of practitioners. Many of these are true believers but they are outside the organization. Certified Member Auditor and Group List Trey Lotz comes to mind. There are many others. Select carefully, and never hesitate to walk away if things don't seem right.
  12. Veda

    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    Here are two renamed applications of some positive aspects of Scientology. Scientology is very proprietary, thus things are renamed. Don't know if the contact information is up to date, but there's no harm in checking it out. Metapsychology practitioners Idenics That's a start.
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    Auditing? I audited a lot of people inside Scientology and also outside the bureaucracy of Scientology. As I noted earlier, I don't recommend the confidential parts of Scientology. That's where a person ends up adopting Hubbard's "case" (his hang ups) as his own. There are lots of interesting...
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    From all indications Freeman is an Indie, who has studied Scientology with a greater understanding than we had when we were newly involved. Link to the YOU NOW TALKING TO YOU THEN thread | Ex Scientologist Message Board This is an informal description of a process used in Scientology before...
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    Good explanation. But I don't think Freeman is inclined to do Scientology inside an official Scientology Inc. Organization. Did you read the link below the illustration?
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    You're welcome. It places you outside the Scientology organization, which is preferable. Even then there are a few things to keep in mind. The first is that the nature of subject changes after it becomes confidential. Most Scientologists think the really good stuff is the confidential part. In...
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    Link to the (Independent) Advanced Organization of the Great Plains which, I believe, has correspondence courses.
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    Link to Talking to new Scientologists? | Ex Scientologist Message Board
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    Hello - Can I Take Scientology Extension Courses With Materials Purchased Used On Ebay?

    Maybe this re-post, plus a brief note to you at the end, will be helpful. I hope so. The Web auditor says: "I'm using LRH tech as it was written before the '60s, while he was still very enthusiastic, before he started getting bitter, unhappy, and things like that." Can't tell if this...
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