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  1. Veda

    Crazy dramatizations abounding

    They're not supposed to, but they do. In any event, you know what I mean. Hubbard sometimes called them "Smersh." Don't be evasive.
  2. Veda

    Crazy dramatizations abounding

    The CIA etc. The bad guys from the government. Someone, more patient than I, will have to go searching for it. Referring to what was already quoted, from you: "The church by that time was already infiltrated and everything since then has been an ongoing farce..." Infiltrated by whom? Who...
  3. Veda

    Crazy dramatizations abounding

    Link to Haiqu's post where he states that "The church by that time [1979] was already infiltrated..." And there are other similar statements by you. It's not a big deal. You're entitled to your opinion, and you're entitled to change your opinion. But denying it is silly. It was designed by...
  4. Veda

    Crazy dramatizations abounding

    Just as "a mind is a terrible thing to waste," I suppose that a "psycho-political cult" is also "a terrible thing to waste." The question is, if the CIA etc. have it, what are they doing with it? Scientology's upper "Bridge" was a dud. I had conversations with many - circa 1960s - Scientology...
  5. Veda

    Crazy dramatizations abounding

    At one time you did casually state that Scientology had been taken over by the CIA. Rather than search for it, here's an easier to find link to your CIA connections to Current Management thread. That said, now that you've answered "no," is it reasonable to assume that you think Hubbard mangled...
  6. Veda

    Crazy dramatizations abounding

    Do you still think Scientology Inc. was taken over by the CIA? or have you changed your mind about that? If you still believe it was taken over, can you tell us the year(s) when that occurred? Thanks. :scratch: P.S. Assuming you still believe the CIA took over Scientology, what would have...
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