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    Between lives elapsed time?

    I was about to say the same or similar thing. Concepts like Heaven, Valhalla and numerous other concepts would need to exist in another "dimension". Also, if I accept that the universe is over 13 billion years old then estimating a "return time" in earth years brings up the prospect of tens or...
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    Between lives elapsed time?

    In Hubbardism/Scientology it's "explained" that people merely associated in any way with the famous person assume the "valence" in scn lingo or identity in King's English of the famous person. Just saying.
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    SBS News Australia: As Scientology shrinks, it turns its gaze towards the Pacific

    The article discusses Applied Scholastics, Youth For Human Rights, and Criminon, not Narconon. I don't know what the Criminon program entails but if it includes any useful information about drugs I don't see that as a bad thing. The article to an extent presents "both sides of the story" which...
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    SBS News Australia: As Scientology shrinks, it turns its gaze towards the Pacific

    If Criminon is factually reducing recidivism or helping prisoners in Indonesia so what if it's a front group. The article says it's being administered by Muslims. As usual there are no reliable statistics.
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    Hare Krishna

    My memories are also vague. I'm not sure if Hubbard said or implied he was once "the" Buddha or that he would return as "a" Buddha, a successor to the original Buddha. My guess is the latter. He was prone to a bit of exaggeration and story telling. (joke) I think he said he once drove an atomic...
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    Hare Krishna

    A longtime contributor to scn blogs who did the original OT8 on the Freewinds became a Buddhist after he left scn. He said that he eventually could do some mediation techniques for hours at a time. He often mentioned references from Milton's Paradise Lost and also dove into Madame Blavatsky's...
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    I think all exmembers should rejoin Scientology

    I scanned the list and I already have a good understanding of alliteration, metaphor, oxymoron, simile and maybe one or two others so I'm well on my way. At random I chose to look up aporia in dictionary.com aporia [ uh-pawr-ee-uh, uh-pohr- ]SHOW IPA 🎓 College Level noun, plural a·po·ri·as...
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    Hare Krishna

    Trivia update - While scanning the Haight Ashbury link Xenu Xenu Xenu posted I came across this comment: "Despite their wholesome hippie image of sandal-wearing vegetarians who like nothing more than wandering through the streets chanting and hitting drums, ISKCON have some rather...
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    Hare Krishna

    Just to ramble on a bit longer, at some time in the 1980's which was some years after I split scn I tried Transcendental Meditation for about two months but got bored with it. Compared to scn auditing it wasn't too exciting. In TM a teacher or whatever they're called gives you a "sound" which...
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    Hare Krishna

    I wonder what Michael would think if he knew that his video is being discussed on a Scientology message board. He might be happy to know that his criticism of Hare Krishna has spread to another corner of the internet. Maybe someone will inform him.
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    Hare Krishna

    As an aside someone once posted an article to the effect of "What are we doing to ourselves with meditation?" It suggested that taking some forms of meditation to the extreme could put one in a form of self hypnosis or other states of mind with possible negative effects. That was one of the few...
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    Hare Krishna

    Since the subject came up I looked into what was the meaning of the Hare Krishna mantra. From some snippets from Wiki it seems that it's chanting three synonyms or maybe two synonyms and a calling or addressing of "God". From wiki: Harā refers to "the energy/shakti of Supreme Personality of...
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    Hare Krishna

    Thanks! It's good to know that he's not stuck in Hare Krishna as a one size fits all religious belief and practice. He's apparently spent a lot of his adult life studying, contemplating and practicing some forms of Hindu philosophy and religion and is willing to accept variations. Like all ex...
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    Hare Krishna

    A question for the ex might be does he believe that chanting to other deities is also spiritually beneficial. If not then he may be in the "Hare Krishna Freezone" with other beliefs being unaçceptable. He ends the video with prayer hands and says "Hare Krishna". He's identified the worst parts...
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    Hare Krishna

    A few years ago I was doing a study of Buddhism and came across this chant. The version I saw had an English translation and it was quite nice, "Homage to The Buddha, the Great Teacher of gods and men . . . etc." One time I sat down and hummed and chanted along with it and got up to 80...
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    Hare Krishna

    There is a compelling and maybe hypnotic appeal with that type of music or chanting. I guess it depends on how far you take it. I enjoyed it and listened to it a few times over.
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    Hare Krishna

    He does a good job of pointing out the abuses and cult aspects of Hare Krishna. Not to be too critical but I couldn't help but notice his Krishna-like body language if there is such a thing with slow, deliberate hand movements, hand clasping and so on. For most people if their ear itches they...
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    Hubbard with meter and aura

    It would seem that the subject of auras could be examined with a simple laboratory experiment. Have a few people who say they can see auras look at the same five subjects and see how their descriptions compare. There are numerous people who describe themselves as "Sensitives" and can detect...
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    Scientology in the book Religion, Altered States of Consciousness and Social Change (Ohio State University Press)

    Regardless of what you call it or whether it has any significance, there are many thousands of such experiences related all over the place without sensory deprivation, drugs or meditation. The passage is explaining exteriorization in scientific or realistic terms. At the top of the scn "Bridge"...
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    Hubbard with meter and aura

    The link or links doesn't go to anything about the meter and aura.
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