Louis Swartz ~~ RIP

Karen#1

Well-known member
Louis Swartz RIP.

For many years was the REG (Sales Agent) for Eastern United States.

The father of Julian Swartz, the AOLA MAA (that Aaron Smith-Levin did an astounding video on.)

Louis, the brother of Fred Swartz who has been intermittently incarcerated in SP Hole.

Don't "report back in 21 years Louis !"RIP.Louis.Swartz.png
 

ILove2Lurk

AI Chatbot
Hope this is not a disrespectful reminiscence. Just a memory of what the man believed and took to the afterlife
with him. How life works out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

My enlightening phone call with SO Executive Louis Swartz about the state of OT . . .
with Clive Rabey on the other line.

I'd been gone for a couple decades, but one day quite a few years ago I got caught out in my front yard in a "drive-by" . . .
by a top SO tours reg in a rental car. We had a tall closed iron gate in front and he was screaming through the bars at me.
He'd flown in to try to make contact and salvage me. This was my first and only contact in over 15 years. Ah, so what.

I invited him in to have coffee since he'd driven so far off the crossroads of the world just to see me. We were living in
a rented three story home at the time and I could hear him talking on his cell phone to Louis downstairs, exclaiming
about the property and view and signaling to him how loaded we must be. Again, it was a temporary rental, but he
wouldn't have known that and I didn't say anything.

Long story short, I consented to get on the phone with Louis Scwartz and another Flag mega-reg (Clive Rabey) just
to get it all over with and maybe rattle some cages for a while. I had time and was bored that afternoon.

I said, boys, let's get down to why I quit Sci and you tell me what. I paid for OT9 & 10 in the late 80's and when are
these "magical" OT levels gonna be released for real? I mean the knock a hat off a person's head, reading a book in
the next room without a body, you know, all the stuff LRH promised for decades. Those OT levels! That is what I
was promised. I paid. I did. What shakes? And when? Don't BS me.

Has any one person ever attained a single verifiable OT phenomenon skill? Come on boys, shit or get off the pot.
When? I was pretty blunt and tough talking. We spoke for about twenty minutes in all and I made sure to remember
all the details for future.

Louis' answer was revealing. He told me he had "recalibrated" [my word . . his meaning] his expectations over the
years about what it means to "be OT" and what the actual skills of an OT really are. What he had a achieved as
an OT, an operating thetan:
  • his comm lines in life are smooth
  • he gets along with his family really well now
  • his production is very high
  • his dynamics are aligned and in very good order
"Sorry boys, I think we're done here," I told them after his polite and detailed story. At that point, I knew they had
nothing and they knew it too. Clive offered to have a Class 9 standing by anytime I called to give me a free intensive
or two. They were both polite and respectful enough. I felt sorry for them.

The sea org tours reg sitting at the dining room table . . . "Could I make you a cup of coffee before you head back to the
airport?" I made a tray of cheese and fruit and coffee. We watched a beautiful sunset while we sat on the deck and snacked.
I think he enjoyed the afternoon . . . a respite from his day to day.
Rest in peace, Louis. :rose:
 
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mimsey borogrove

Well-known member
I first met Louis in NYO and I was there for a few days and needed a place to stay. He offered me his place. It turned out to be an empty loft in a off wall street walk up. Oh well. Who can complain about a free place to crash? I was thankful for his generosity. The next time I ran into him, was at FSO in Los Angeles - I had liked Gretchen a lot, we were best buds, and I got along with Louis well, the many times I met with him there, were pleasant and he tried always to be helpful. It's too bad they fitness boarded him out, but it's a common fate. I wish him well on the next step of his journey through this plane of existence.

Mimsey
 

Harold#1

A VERY STABLE SUPER GENIUS!!
This I did not know ~~(posted on Outer Banks.)

He was was cut loose from the SO when he was no longer “fit” to serve
Fitness boarded out around 2016.

So he was NOT a Sea Org member when he died.
Does Scientology still do little or nothing, to provide room and board for Sea Org "volunteers" who have neither after their "retirement"?
 

statpush

Active member
Hope this is not a disrespectful reminiscence. Just a memory of what the man believed and took to the afterlife
with him. How life works out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

My enlightening phone call with SO Executive Louis Swartz about the state of OT . . .
with Clive Rabey on the other line.

I'd been gone for a couple decades, but one day quite a few years ago I got caught out in my front yard in a "drive-by" . . .
by a top SO tours reg in a rental car. We had a tall closed iron gate in front and he was screaming through the bars at me.
He'd flown in to try to make contact and salvage me. This was my first and only contact in over 15 years. Ah, so what.

I invited him in to have coffee since he'd driven so far off the crossroads of the world just to see me. We were living in
a rented three story home at the time and I could hear him talking on his cell phone to Louis downstairs, exclaiming
about the property and view and signaling to him how loaded we must be. Again, it was a temporary rental, but he
wouldn't have known that and I didn't say anything.

Long story short, I consented to get on the phone with Louis Scwartz and another Flag mega-reg (Clive Rabey) just
to get it all over with and maybe rattle some cages for a while. I had time and was bored that afternoon.

I said, boys, let's get down to why I quit Sci and you tell me what. I paid for OT9 & 10 in the late 80's and when are
these "magical" OT levels gonna be released for real? I mean the knock a hat off a person's head, reading a book in
the next room without a body, you know, all the stuff LRH promised for decades. Those OT levels! That is what I
was promised. I paid. I did. What shakes? And when? Don't BS me.

Has any one person ever attained a single verifiable OT phenomenon skill? Come on boys, shit or get off the pot.
When? I was pretty blunt and tough talking. We spoke for about twenty minutes in all and I made sure to remember
all the details for future.

Louis' answer was revealing. He told me he had "recalibrated" [my word . . his meaning] his expectations over the
years about what it means to "be OT" and what the actual skills of an OT really are. What he had a achieved as
an OT, an operating thetan:
  • his comm lines in life are smooth
  • he gets along with his family really well now
  • his production is very high
  • his dynamics are aligned and in very good order
"Sorry boys, I think we're done here," I told them after his polite and detailed story. At that point, I knew they had
nothing and they knew it too. Clive offered to have a Class 9 standing by anytime I called to give me a free intensive
or two. They were both polite and respectful enough. I felt sorry for them.

The sea org tours reg sitting at the dining room table . . . "Could I make you a cup of coffee before you head back to the
airport?" I made a tray of cheese and fruit and coffee. We watched a beautiful sunset while we sat on the deck and snacked.
I think he enjoyed the afternoon . . . a respite from his day to day.
Rest in peace, Louis. :rose:
Sounds like an honest answer.
Great story
 

Arthur Dent

New member
Having been shamed on the Internet for tossing out workhorse slaves because of age, they have an old and aged Sea Org members
in a retirement home in Clearwater. So some are placed there.

5 years ago I posted this on the old ESMB
I wonder if the retirement home in Clearwater is where Louis ended up, any idea? I hope he had some care. In spite of all the mis-beliefs, and ugly cult history, I thought Louis was kind and caring, at least in my dealings with him.
 

HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
Hope this is not a disrespectful reminiscence. Just a memory of what the man believed and took to the afterlife
with him. How life works out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

My enlightening phone call with SO Executive Louis Swartz about the state of OT . . .
with Clive Rabey on the other line.

I'd been gone for a couple decades, but one day quite a few years ago I got caught out in my front yard in a "drive-by" . . .
by a top SO tours reg in a rental car. We had a tall closed iron gate in front and he was screaming through the bars at me.
He'd flown in to try to make contact and salvage me. This was my first and only contact in over 15 years. Ah, so what.

I invited him in to have coffee since he'd driven so far off the crossroads of the world just to see me. We were living in
a rented three story home at the time and I could hear him talking on his cell phone to Louis downstairs, exclaiming
about the property and view and signaling to him how loaded we must be. Again, it was a temporary rental, but he
wouldn't have known that and I didn't say anything.

Long story short, I consented to get on the phone with Louis Scwartz and another Flag mega-reg (Clive Rabey) just
to get it all over with and maybe rattle some cages for a while. I had time and was bored that afternoon.

I said, boys, let's get down to why I quit Sci and you tell me what. I paid for OT9 & 10 in the late 80's and when are
these "magical" OT levels gonna be released for real? I mean the knock a hat off a person's head, reading a book in
the next room without a body, you know, all the stuff LRH promised for decades. Those OT levels! That is what I
was promised. I paid. I did. What shakes? And when? Don't BS me.

Has any one person ever attained a single verifiable OT phenomenon skill? Come on boys, shit or get off the pot.
When? I was pretty blunt and tough talking. We spoke for about twenty minutes in all and I made sure to remember
all the details for future.

Louis' answer was revealing. He told me he had "recalibrated" [my word . . his meaning] his expectations over the
years about what it means to "be OT" and what the actual skills of an OT really are. What he had a achieved as
an OT, an operating thetan:
  • his comm lines in life are smooth
  • he gets along with his family really well now
  • his production is very high
  • his dynamics are aligned and in very good order
"Sorry boys, I think we're done here," I told them after his polite and detailed story. At that point, I knew they had
nothing and they knew it too. Clive offered to have a Class 9 standing by anytime I called to give me a free intensive
or two. They were both polite and respectful enough. I felt sorry for them.

The sea org tours reg sitting at the dining room table . . . "Could I make you a cup of coffee before you head back to the
airport?" I made a tray of cheese and fruit and coffee. We watched a beautiful sunset while we sat on the deck and snacked.
I think he enjoyed the afternoon . . . a respite from his day to day.
Rest in peace, Louis. :rose:
.

Remarkably illuminating story! Loved it!

One of the best I ever read on the internet about the ACTUAL end of the bridge where. . . the culmination of a lifetime of striving for OT results in this:
  • his comm lines in life are smooth
  • he gets along with his family really well now
  • his production is very high
  • his dynamics are aligned and in very good order
Is that all there is to the "Bridge To Total Freedom"?

That sounds like a very modestly functional homo sapiens, whose highest achievement is perhaps holding a $13 dollar an hour position as a lifelong re-stocking clerk in the lawn & garden supplies section of Walmart.

"Is that all there is to a (wall of) fire?"



.
 
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PirateAndBum

Administrator
Staff member
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Remarkably illuminating story! Loved it!

One of the best I ever read on the internet about the ACTUAL end of the bridge where. . . the culmination of a lifetime of striving for OT results in this:
  • his comm lines in life are smooth
  • he gets along with his family really well now
  • his production is very high
  • his dynamics are aligned and in very good order
Is that all there is to the "Bridge To Total Freedom"?

That sounds like a very modestly functional homo sapiens, whose highest achievement is perhaps holding a $13 dollar an hour position as a lifelong re-stocking clerk in the lawn & garden supplies section of Walmart.

"Is that all there is to a (wall of) fire?"



.
Sounds like what you'd expect from a grade zero release.
 

vegan3

Well-known member
I have a very vague memory of Fred and a dark haired woman he dated. Were they related to Maggie or just happened to have the same last name?
 

La La Lou Lou

Well-known member
Hope this is not a disrespectful reminiscence. Just a memory of what the man believed and took to the afterlife
with him. How life works out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

My enlightening phone call with SO Executive Louis Swartz about the state of OT . . .
with Clive Rabey on the other line.

I'd been gone for a couple decades, but one day quite a few years ago I got caught out in my front yard in a "drive-by" . . .
by a top SO tours reg in a rental car. We had a tall closed iron gate in front and he was screaming through the bars at me.
He'd flown in to try to make contact and salvage me. This was my first and only contact in over 15 years. Ah, so what.

I invited him in to have coffee since he'd driven so far off the crossroads of the world just to see me. We were living in
a rented three story home at the time and I could hear him talking on his cell phone to Louis downstairs, exclaiming
about the property and view and signaling to him how loaded we must be. Again, it was a temporary rental, but he
wouldn't have known that and I didn't say anything.

Long story short, I consented to get on the phone with Louis Scwartz and another Flag mega-reg (Clive Rabey) just
to get it all over with and maybe rattle some cages for a while. I had time and was bored that afternoon.

I said, boys, let's get down to why I quit Sci and you tell me what. I paid for OT9 & 10 in the late 80's and when are
these "magical" OT levels gonna be released for real? I mean the knock a hat off a person's head, reading a book in
the next room without a body, you know, all the stuff LRH promised for decades. Those OT levels! That is what I
was promised. I paid. I did. What shakes? And when? Don't BS me.

Has any one person ever attained a single verifiable OT phenomenon skill? Come on boys, shit or get off the pot.
When? I was pretty blunt and tough talking. We spoke for about twenty minutes in all and I made sure to remember
all the details for future.

Louis' answer was revealing. He told me he had "recalibrated" [my word . . his meaning] his expectations over the
years about what it means to "be OT" and what the actual skills of an OT really are. What he had a achieved as
an OT, an operating thetan:
  • his comm lines in life are smooth
  • he gets along with his family really well now
  • his production is very high
  • his dynamics are aligned and in very good order
"Sorry boys, I think we're done here," I told them after his polite and detailed story. At that point, I knew they had
nothing and they knew it too. Clive offered to have a Class 9 standing by anytime I called to give me a free intensive
or two. They were both polite and respectful enough. I felt sorry for them.

The sea org tours reg sitting at the dining room table . . . "Could I make you a cup of coffee before you head back to the
airport?" I made a tray of cheese and fruit and coffee. We watched a beautiful sunset while we sat on the deck and snacked.
I think he enjoyed the afternoon . . . a respite from his day to day.
Rest in peace, Louis. :rose:
So that's what happened to Clive Rabey, he left SaintHill to reg at Flag. Wonder if he's still in. Maybe your conversation set him free, hope so.
 
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