The Independent Scientology Advanced Organization of the Great Plains

Scientologirl

A new independent Scientologist with AOGP
New book by LJ Kemsley, the Co-Executive Director of the Independent Scientology Advanced Organization of the Great Plains (AOGP) -- Why You Keep Failing and How To Stop


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08YLWHQPD


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Kindle $9.99

Description

This revolutionary book will change the way you think of being, doing and having more than you ever could imagine. The secrets herein will unlock a world that the Elites would have you not know. Be warned, it's a wild ride and something COMPLETELY unique to anything on the market today. Take the journey with me as I open you to a world of secrets to achieving all your hopes and dreams!

Product Details

ASIN: B08YLWHQPD
Publication date: March 9, 2021
Language: English
File size: 463 KB
Text-to-Speech: Enabled
Screen Reader: Supported
Enhanced typesetting: Enabled
X-Ray: Not Enabled
Word Wise: Enabled
Print length: 35 pages
Lending: Enabled

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It would be nice, considering you PM me about things first, if you'd have considered not having an actual page of my book shown. I believe I have a right to ask you to remove it being the copyright holder.
 

He-man

Hero extraordinary
It would be nice, considering you PM me about things first, if you'd have considered not having an actual page of my book shown. I believe I have a right to ask you to remove it being the copyright holder.
No you don't, since it is in the public domain as linked by ISNOI.
 

Bill

Well-known member
It would be nice, considering you PM me about things first, if you'd have considered not having an actual page of my book shown. I believe I have a right to ask you to remove it being the copyright holder.
Look up "fair use". Learn.
 

Karakorum

Ron is the source that will lead you to grief
I get 6.75 from it, and it's not the quantity but the quality. Also, I could have made the text bigger to fill more pages, which I'll do next time as it's on 11.
Yeah I know Amazon takes a bite out of the author's profits not gonna argue that point - you are entirely correct.


Having said that, I do have to point out that 10 $ is a lot for a 35 page long book (even if the print is small).
I mean for $8.39 I can get a 598 page long illustrated science book on the Ordovician period.
 

Scientologirl

A new independent Scientologist with AOGP
1. I get $6.75 for each book
2. It is transferred to an American bank because my country's banks can't be connected, which means that bank charges to my bank, then my bank withdrawing, leaves me with about $4 if I am lucky, on each sale.
3. The book can be loaned out on Amazon
4. I think I saw anyone with a Kindle membership can read it.
5. If $9.99 is really that much, just don't buy it.

I appreciate the constructive criticism, however, I kept the book short because I wanted everyone, including people who don't read much, to benefit. It's a gradient approach. That said, I learned a long time ago that I have a right to charge whatever I damn well please for anything I create - it's the same as my digital art, people want to pay bottom dollar for the hours I spent creating, learning the skill and resources. I prefer not to compare and contrast myself, my work or my prices with other people's work. People either can afford it or not. :)
 

ISNOINews

Independent Scientology and Nation of Islam news
It would be nice, considering you PM me about things first, if you'd have considered not having an actual page of my book shown. I believe I have a right to ask you to remove it being the copyright holder.
The page (and indeed much more) is displayed by the Amazon "Look Inside" feature. Thus, the page (and much more) is available to everyone in the world who has access to the world wide web -- i.e., hundreds of millions if not billions of people. And you are going to complain about the page being posted here? Seriously?

I also believe that the excerpt falls within the fair use provision of copyright law set forth in 17 U.S. Code § 107.

In any event, I cannot delete the page because it is past the deadline. I am simply unable to modify the post because of the forum's software settings.

Nonetheless, if you decide to report the post and ask the moderator to delete the page, you can tell the moderator that I, as a courtesy, support your request. If your request is granted, I replace the deleted page with a smaller fair use excerpt that even more clearly complies with the requirements of 17 U.S. Code § 107. Such excerpt will include, but not necessarily be limited to, your statement, "Here goes: I am an independent Scientologist and this book is largely based on Scientology principles."

Finally, don't worry about me PMing you in the future. I won't.

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HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
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I get 6.75 from it, and it's not the quantity but the quality. Also, I could have made the text bigger to fill more pages, which I'll do next time as it's on 11.

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You keep missing the point of why people are not buying your book.

1. The name of your book is "WHY YOU KEEP FAILING AND HOW TO STOP". The reason you are failing to sell your book has nothing to do with "making the text bigger".​
2. If your How To Stop Failing tech works, why did you and your fiance (the other Co-Executive Director of your now-closed Scientology Mission) fail to apply your own workable technology? And if you did apply it, why did your tech fail so that you were forced to close your doors?​
3. I've asked you before but you don't answer hard questions by either ignoring them or tossing off non-sequiturs (e.g. "I could have made the text bigger") and mystical misdirections (e.g. "People select what they want to see"), so let's try again. Why didn't you and your Co-Executive Director use your no-fail tech to pay back all those loans you took from other Indie Scientologists? Why did you fail to win in court when you got sued by one couple who now have a judgment against your partner/fiance for $46,000? Why should people pay you $9.99 for failed no-fail tech?​
4. Since you are promoting your book, which is based upon the works of L. Ron Hubbard, you should answer why Hubbard spent more than 36 years (late 1940's to 1986) promoting his earlier-similar no-fail technology of how to become "TOTAL CAUSE OVER LIFE" by going Clear and OT, yet that technology failed to "cause" even one (1) Clear or OT to exist.​


PRO TIP: The problem is not your font size.

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Scientologirl

A new independent Scientologist with AOGP
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You keep missing the point of why people are not buying your book.

1. The name of your book is "WHY YOU KEEP FAILING AND HOW TO STOP". The reason you are failing to sell your book has nothing to do with "making the text bigger".​
2. If your How To Stop Failing tech works, why did you and your fiance (the other Co-Executive Director of your now-closed Scientology Mission) fail to apply your own workable technology? And if you did apply it, why did your tech fail so that you were forced to close your doors?​
3. I've asked you before but you don't answer hard questions by either ignoring them or tossing off non-sequiturs (e.g. "I could have made the text bigger") and mystical misdirections (e.g. "People select what they want to see"), so let's try again. Why didn't you and your Co-Executive Director use your no-fail tech to pay back all those loans you took from other Indie Scientologists? Why did you fail to win in court when you got sued by one couple who now have a judgment against your partner/fiance for $46,000? Why should people pay you $9.99 for failed no-fail tech?​
4. Since you are promoting your book, which is based upon the works of L. Ron Hubbard, you should answer why Hubbard spent more than 36 years (late 1940's to 1986) promoting his earlier-similar no-fail technology of how to become "TOTAL CAUSE OVER LIFE" by going Clear and OT, yet that technology failed to "cause" even one (1) Clear or OT to exist.​


PRO TIP: The problem is not your font size.

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I'm starting to see a pattern here to be honest. Many of you are writing opinions, obviously been viciously third partied and PTS yourselves with rumour. I don't care for it at all. Show me policies, not personal opinions or things you've read or heard to make your case.

As for "making things go right" - are you aware we had someone in our org stealing all of our public? Do you know the only reason we got sued is because she wanted revenge? I mean, a "Scientologist" going to Ortega should tell you enough.

Many businesses, including very successful ones had to close their doors during the global pandemic as it simply isn't practical to have an org opened when people are afraid of spreading the virus. We have kept our online auditing and training available and have made many improvements during this time to ensure our public still receive what they need.

Success doesn't happen overnight. My book doesn't offer any kind of magical way to suddenly have everything you want instantaneously. If you saw who I was and what I did before using the knowledge in my book to now, you'd understand that yes, I am successful. I'm happier, I make more money, I'm more consistent, and I'm more skilled and if that isn't success then you simply have too high expectations.

Grow up, would ya? I don't know what your personal issue is with me but your hatred is misdirected. I never once called you personally low-toned but if you're attacking me because of that and the shoe fits, go right ahead and lace it up.

PS, I have had sales with my book and you saying "people are not buying your book" is exactly the reason why you're not a Scientologist anymore - you create your own reality and narrative to further whatever your agenda is (if you ever were one in the first place).
 

HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
I'm starting to see a pattern here to be honest. Many of you are writing opinions, obviously been viciously third partied and PTS yourselves with rumour. I don't care for it at all. Show me policies, not personal opinions or things you've read or heard to make your case.

As for "making things go right" - are you aware we had someone in our org stealing all of our public? Do you know the only reason we got sued is because she wanted revenge? I mean, a "Scientologist" going to Ortega should tell you enough.

Many businesses, including very successful ones had to close their doors during the global pandemic as it simply isn't practical to have an org opened when people are afraid of spreading the virus. We have kept our online auditing and training available and have made many improvements during this time to ensure our public still receive what they need.

Success doesn't happen overnight. My book doesn't offer any kind of magical way to suddenly have everything you want instantaneously. If you saw who I was and what I did before using the knowledge in my book to now, you'd understand that yes, I am successful. I'm happier, I make more money, I'm more consistent, and I'm more skilled and if that isn't success then you simply have too high expectations.

Grow up, would ya? I don't know what your personal issue is with me but your hatred is misdirected. I never once called you personally low-toned but if you're attacking me because of that and the shoe fits, go right ahead and lace it up.

PS, I have had sales with my book and you saying "people are not buying your book" is exactly the reason why you're not a Scientologist anymore - you create your own reality and narrative to further whatever your agenda is (if you ever were one in the first place).

So go ahead and have all your wins, nobody is stopping you.

You're the one that decided to come to this forum and promote your Scientology services and book, nobody did that except you.

If you don't like the feedback you get on lathering everyone up with dead agenting, accusations of "low toned" and a dozen other choice Scientology shatter gimmicks, i suggest you learn how to have a normal conversation with other adults.

You assume such a vulgar degree of altitude and condescension over others, it is literally foaming off the page.

Nobody here cares if you are off having your wins. Nobody was bothering you. If you don't want people to answer you why are you posting things on a discussion board. I can assure you that not one person came her for the introductory lectures you keep giving on Ron's tech. We all had that long before you ever heard the word Scientology. Now you think people are stupid enough that you are some kind of theta guru? LOL

As far as your booming book sales, on Amazon it shows exactly zero. Maybe you have other sales outlets, good for you. Who cares?

If you were not so intent on giving lectures, you might have learned something from all the very bright and well experienced people that meet up on this message board.

If you are looking for people to sell Scientology products and services to, why do you think that is going to work on ESMB?

You are welcome to be on the message board, I don't control that and i have no opinion about whether you should or should not be here, that's up to you alone. But if you don't want people to push back with their "toxic" and "low toned" and "PTS" and "overt" motivated criticisms and "entheta" why are you here? And yes, even though you try to lie about what you said about others here and cover it up, here is news. People here are not stupid and they can read what you write.

If you could stop running your Scientology mind games on others and covertly trying to "HANDLE" others, you would have a lot more horsepower to put behind your creative and writing and other projects. It's holding you back, you not only don't need to "handle" others, you also are not good at it. Find something you can do, instead of such a pointless Hubbardian exercise in futility.

If you compulsively have the need to HANDLE someone, handle yourself.


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HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
As for "making things go right" - are you aware we had someone in our org stealing all of our public? Do you know the only reason we got sued is because she wanted revenge? I mean, a "Scientologist" going to Ortega should tell you enough.
Unfortunately, your shore stories don't work on a message board with extremely sophisticated ex-Scientologists who know all the TR-L gimmicks already.

Someone stole all your public? I have worked in orgs, Advanced Orgs, St. Hills, missions and just about every other configuration of Scientology service organizations. Nobody can steal an org's public. If your public loved your services and your staff why would anyone be able to steal them? That's just ridiculous. On the other hand, if you alienated your own public (the same way you are determined to alienate virtually everyone you interact with on ESMB) it would not be surprising that people bailed out as soon as someone else offered to train/audit them. Even if some competitor took some of the PCs, how were they YOUR pcs, if the pcs did not want you to give them auditing and training? It sounds super flakey and on top of that, you pretend to have no responsibility for your own customers turning their backs on you.

The only reason you got sued is for revenge? No. That's just the worst bullshit I have ever heard you spew. The reason someone sued you is because you defaulted on the money you borrowed and they had NO OTHER WAY TO ENFORCE PAYMENT FROM A DEADBEAT BORROWER. I didn't make that up, it's how money works since the beginning of time. People have to spend time and money to go to court to chase you. You failed to perform on your loan agreement. Then you failed to propose an acceptable settlement, so naturally the creditor had no other choice than to sue you. They did not WANT to sue you, you FORCED THEM to sue you because you ripped off their money and gave them no method of collecting the debt other than paying a lawyer to take it to a state court (since the sum $40,000 is too large to prosecute thru small claims court).


Honestly, you must think people are idiots to believe that one of your creditors sued you for something other than money. It's pure bullshit and anyone who has either loaned or borrowed money knows you are making crap up.

The couple that sued you, obviously at one point in time really trusted you because they gave you 40,000 dollars on an unsecured loan! Incredibly generous! That is almost unheard of--no collateral! So they must have really liked you and your business partner (the mission ED) at one point. Then you put them thru hell and in desperation they sued. If they told other people what you did to them, that's not revenge. That's just them warning people about you and your fiance. They didn't cause that to happen, YOU did. And if you rip people off and they get upset and talk about it, then don't rip people off. Simple. You don't get to blame your victims for not having wins when you have THEIR 46,000 dollars in YOUR pocket.

PRO TIP: When you insult people's intelligence and think you can "get over on them" with TR-L and SHORE STORIES and other "Tricking & Lying" gimmicks, you come across like Hubbard or Miscavige or any of the other infamous Scientologists who routinely rip people off.

Who knows, maybe you think your rhetorical gimmicks are really really really working. LOL!

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Scientologirl

A new independent Scientologist with AOGP
You're the one that decided to come to this forum and promote your Scientology services and book, nobody did that except you.
Did I though? Or have I been defending the posts that have been created when people make comments? I didn't post or promote my book or services, but, if you weren't so enterbulated by my mere presence on here, you'd know that. And that's exactly why Scientology works: you get the reactivity off so you can think Clearly and make arguments if you need to based on logic, not aggression and a need to be right. :)
 

Scientologirl

A new independent Scientologist with AOGP
And yes, even though you try to lie about what you said about others here and cover it up, here is news. People here are not stupid and they can read what you write.
Please point something out that I lied about and then covered up? Your reality is quite...different.
 

Scientologirl

A new independent Scientologist with AOGP
If your public loved your services and your staff why would anyone be able to steal them? That's just ridiculous.
It happened, and he admitted it. :) Sure, it was covered with justifications but that's exactly what happened. If you knew the history, you'd know that this happened in the Church as well as in the indie field. Hence Hubbard made it a suppressive act to steal public for a private practice. People want cheaper, and they don't know any better. If you had a good business and someone stole clients from you for a better deal, you're telling me that couldn't happen if you delivered good service. Get real.
 

Scientologirl

A new independent Scientologist with AOGP
The only reason you got sued is for revenge? No. That's just the worst bullshit I have ever heard you spew. The reason someone sued you is because you defaulted on the money you borrowed and they had NO OTHER WAY TO ENFORCE PAYMENT FROM A DEADBEAT BORROWER. I didn't make that up, it's how money works since the beginning of time. People have to spend time and money to go to court to chase you. You failed to perform on your loan agreement. Then you failed to propose an acceptable settlement, so naturally the creditor had no other choice than to sue you. They did not WANT to sue you, you FORCED THEM to sue you because you ripped off their money and gave them no method of collecting the debt other than paying a lawyer to take it to a state court (since the sum $40,000 is too large to prosecute thru small claims court).
And your source is? Ortega? Facebook? Right.... What the actual story is, is that the husband loaned the money, and the wife sued because as the person above her, I told her to knock off her behaviour that was damaging to both students and staff. She quit soon after realising I was not controllable by her hand. We sent the husband who we have no issues with at all an email stating given the pandemic and lockdowns, we needed a little more time. We received no response and got served papers shortly after. We then offered a monthly payment, (all legal) and nothing happened until court. This all happened including the court judgment in less than one year, so your "people have to spend time and money to go to court to chase you" is unfounded.

The fact that you don't know me, and the fact that there's two sides to every story which you vehemently refuse to accept, and you're saying all these nasty things (because "nasty things" is better than the button you have on "low toned") really makes me wonder who you really are.

An outsider to this thread would clearly see that many of you have a hatred for someone that makes absolutely no sense at all - especially you, whoever you really are.
 

HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
Sounds like you know them personally? Very interesting..

As is always the case in Scientology, the knowing-how-to-know people are always the last to know.

When you have time to look into my history (by reading my posts on ESMB from the past 12 years) you should look into everyone's history and pull the string on the conspiracy of SPs trying to loan you substantial sums of money--just so that they can "third party you" and get "revenge" on you when you don't pay them back. It's quite ingenious. In fact, diabolical!

Impressive data series eval work you are doing there!

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Scientologirl

A new independent Scientologist with AOGP
As is always the case, the knowing-how-to-know folks are always the last to know.

When you have time to look into my history (by reading my posts on ESMB from the past 12 years) you should look into everyone's history and pull the string on the conspiracy of SPs loaning you $40K so that they can "third party you" get "revenge" on you when they don't pay you back.

Impressive data series eval work you are doing there!

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I never called them SPs. You did.
 

Scientologirl

A new independent Scientologist with AOGP
As is always the case, the knowing-how-to-know folks are always the last to know.

When you have time to look into my history (by reading my posts on ESMB from the past 12 years) you should look into everyone's history and pull the string on the conspiracy of SPs loaning you $40K so that they can "third party you" get "revenge" on you when they don't pay you back.

Impressive data series eval work you are doing there!

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You're one of "those types," and I'm going to call you out on it. If you can't handle the Scientologese then I'll speak with things most people are familiar with: you gaslight, and then make yourself the victim by saying I called YOU low-toned, you twist my words, you put things in, you label what your reality is as fact, you disregard my reality entirely, you use generalities (also known in the non-scientology community as a means to lie), you name call, you suggest that you know it all while in the same breath label me as arrogant, and you invalidate me. I'm sure your personal relationships are great right? You have the mark of a manipulator and control freak, and now I will call you a name in turn, you're an asshole. I hope you can understand and have that, considering it enturbulates you so much to use Scientology terms.
 

HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
I never called them SPs. You did.

Please feel free to go find some other PCs you can hat, train, audit and handle.

Because, after I realized you are just a troll, I have been off on a mega huge win, unkillable floating TA and non-stop line charging.

FYI: I am preparing an amazing written OT Success Story and the people over at ADVANCE! magazine said I can submit it as soon as I have a parking miracle. Thanks again!

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