Why do auditors keep auditing?

He-man

Hero extraordinary
Gut feeling tells me its as much the sirens call of going clear coupled with the time already invested in it. I don't think most "auditors" consider the damage they may cause or believe they are ripping people off. I hold that to be more true if the person in question believes in the whole "Psych" conspiracy.

I guess that in some cases, money comes into play. I'd imagine this to be more true if, instead of getting an education, you spent your formative years in Scientology.

I think the good news is that most people don't.
 

Veda

Well-known member



Gut feeling tells me its as much the sirens call of going clear coupled with the time already invested in it. I don't think most "auditors" consider the damage they may cause or believe they are ripping people off. I hold that to be more true if the person in question believes in the whole "Psych" conspiracy.

I guess that in some cases, money comes into play. I'd imagine this to be more true if, instead of getting an education, you spent your formative years in Scientology.

I think the good news is that most people don't.
That's a pretty good summation.

Have you listened to the video? It seems to take it one step further.

The web auditor says: "I'm using LRH tech as it was written before the '60s, while he was still very enthusiastic, before he started getting bitter, unhappy, and things like that."

Can't tell if this person is being diplomatic to another auditor who is of a more conventional mind set, and refraining from saying something on the order of, "Hubbard probably had a self serving hidden agenda all along but was surrounded, during the 1950s, by some bright and innovative people, from whom he borrowed much. These were people interested in contributing to a layman oriented movement. Gradually, the brightest and most innovative people left, and the movement became a cult."

Probably, this person is not being diplomatic and is simply stating what he believes - still, it's a step in the right direction, IMO.

This "layman oriented movement," during its early years, had, as one of it inspirations, the writings of Alfred Korzybski, who wanted his subject, which he called General Semantics, to be studied and applied by any intelligent person, including the intelligent layman.

This short video ends abruptly but summarizes nicely
Korzybski's main message.


The idea was that the "ordinary" person should be able to think and evaluate clearly, and behave rationally, without being dependent on any bureaucracy or priesthood.

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At one time the categories of the Message Board started, at the bottom, with "Freezone, Indy, and other Flavors of Scientology" and, above that, was "Human potential, Self discovery."

Probably, at the very bottom, should be "Cults in general."

In any event, these categories, and those above them, offered places where a person could "land," or arrive, at the Message Board.

As I understand it, one of the functions of the Message Board was to be a place where such persons could "land" - and communicate - while having some doubts about parts of Scientology while still being adherents of parts of Scientology. Usually, in such an environment, people change.

The balancing act is being able to practice tolerance while maintaining the nature of the Message Board.
 

He-man

Hero extraordinary
As I understand it, one of the functions of the Message Board was to be a place where such persons could "land" - and communicate - while having some doubts about parts of Scientology while still being adherents of parts of Scientology. Usually, in such an environment, people change.

The balancing act is being able to practice tolerance while maintaining the nature of the Message Board.
Ah, tolerance.

I often think of it these days. The tolerant are constantly being accused of being intolerant. Intolerance is the new tolerant in politics so how can it be any different when it comes to cults?

I personally draw the line where Freezoners, or anyone else really, goes to promote. that for me where the conflict persists.

It is as you say, a balancing act.

I see it as this, I think that discussing the tech is great, including viewpoints from all sides. Open discourse. I read a lot of it but rarely comment, I would feel silly doing so since I was not in Div.4

Open discourse also means free to criticize and able to receive criticism, something a lot of people find hard, even infallible little me. With criticism I mean that in its classic sense. That would be the utopian dystopia on an ESMB. :)
 
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