A magical mystery tour of Dead Orgs part 02 - Boston!

[Karakorum]

Ah Boston, a city with an urban area of over 4 million. I know, its not Florida or California, but its over 4 million people! There must be intelligent life here, right?

Let's check the website of the local org then:

There is nothing about the local org and its issues. No local flavor of any kind. No list of available auditors. Nothing about how many staff members they have.
Also... no mention of any events past or present. No mention of the Covid19 situation. The Fresno site felt like nothing happened there for 12 years. This website feels like nothing EVER happened here.

Also, there is this part on the right where the Fresno site had a clickable photo of Ron with some info. Here its just a blank space. They literally had nothing to put there.

As for the top 6 questions FAQ: "Who is David Miscavige?" Gee I'm so absolutely sure that IS one of the top questions new people ask.

Oh wait... are there any new people? I have some doubts about that.

Well, at least the open hours are better than Fresno. They at least seem to work Fridays.

What about the local "Meet a Scientologist" dude?

The site suggested this guy as the default one. And he is from (drumrolls) LAS VEGAS!?

Boston org cannot even scrape 1 measly staff member to make a video. Not 1 person from a city of over 4 million.
THERE ARE COUNTRIES WITH LESS THAN 4 MILLION PEOPLE!
What is wrong with you Boston?!

Ok, last chance - how does the building look?

Courtesy of google. Seems they rent just 1 floor and they have nobody at the entrance so they just left this piece of paper to call them if you wanna come in.

Wait... this means that there are no body routers outside the door? What? They can't even get a single body router to be there during the day? (To be clear: Photo is from Sept 2019, so before the Covid thing).


They should be glad I'm no longer inside. Because that would not fly with me, that piece of paper is so out-PR!

Final verdict: The place is a dead wasteland.

And now it is time for a word from the MAA (Morally Abiding Alligator):

 

[Dotey OT]

Nice work @Karakorum!!

Thus the idle morgue evolution claims another victim, the once venerable Boston org is succumbing to the building fundraising cycle.

In the org that I witnessed, the normal operations were really placed in the backseat. Occasionally a mission would come in and try to revive the academy. It wasn't until closer to the actual opening that a lot of outside attention came in to bring it back from the dead.

This point here, the apparent lack of care towards how far south this org will be let to sink, will get into the minds of those that care.

You will know it's not about servicing public anymore when you see this happen.

 

[Dotey OT]

Does anyone know if Dale Sherlock is still on staff there?

 

[freethinker]

Does anyone know if Dale Sherlock is still on staff there?

He was there as of 10 years ago.

 

[Karakorum]

He was there as of 10 years ago.

Would he be in any way related to Tony Scherlock?

 

[freethinker]

Would he be in any way related to Tony Scherlock?

Don't know of a Tony Sherlock, or Scherlock, but I know Dale has a brother and maybe that is him. I don't know. Dale was on Day and I was on Foundation staff. I am more familiar with Foundation staff. When I went on staff, I was the only one who wasn't in lowers because every staff member on Foundation org was put in lowers as well as Day but Mary Smith refused to give up her post. Mary passed away a few years back so she can't be affected by my saying who she is and it far to common a name.

I had to sign everyone out of lowers. Here I was brand new staff but the only one in normal. It was a very strange situation. I even took the documents to the post office that replaced the Foundation ED. I called the new ED, the Samurai ED because he was removing people from post left and right. Many were reposted to new posts.

My time on staff was a very strange affair. It started out not too bad because ever grew increasingly bizarre as time went on. I was removed from post a few times and finally, when my contract was up I decided to leave and I just never went back on post. However, it was acknowledged in a letter from the HCO Sec that I had completed my contract but I had to replace myself. To think they want someone who wants to leave to replace themselves is a really screwed up idea. I remember they were having volumes of documents shredded on a daily basis prior to the War is Over event.

They even warehoused huge amounts of documents in a local warehouse. Don't know if they were ever brought back but it was a huge pile. You could have had a very sizable bonfire with it.

Dale was always a loyal and true believer and a relatively nice guy but he was there for the duration and I presume he is still there.

 

[Dotey OT]

I trained with Dale, and indeed he was a good guy. I always hold out hope for the guys that I knew, but alas.

 

[freethinker]

I trained with Dale, and indeed he was a good guy. I always hold out hope for the guys that I knew, but alas.

Interesting thing about Dale is that when you talked to him you could tell he really believed in the tech but i always got the sense that he also knew the truth that Scientology had a very sinister side.

 

[Karakorum]

Don't know of a Tony Sherlock, or Scherlock, but I know Dale has a brother and maybe that is him. I don't know. Dale was on Day and I was on Foundation staff. I am more familiar with Foundation staff. When I went on staff, I was the only one who wasn't in lowers because every staff member on Foundation org was put in lowers as well as Day but Mary Smith refused to give up her post. Mary passed away a few years back so she can't be affected by my saying who she is and it far to common a name.

Thanks, I honestly do not remember if it was spelled Scherlock or Sherlock (I guess likely the latter). I did not know the guy very well in person, but he was running the scanning team at the time and the scanning team was a major issue for us. So we kept bumping into scan problems and he was the go to guy. As such, he was likely the person who got the most negative "PR" as far as continental inv goes.
Probably my most frequent comment about him at the time was: "Fucker should be shot" (I'm not proud of that now btw). A lot of problems at the time and everyone's patience was low. I probably did not help the situation.

Frankly, it most likely wasn't even his fault. Scanning was just a mess and I think if I had that post its no way certain I would do better then he did.

They even warehoused huge amounts of documents in a local warehouse. Don't know if they were ever brought back but it was a huge pile. You could have had a very sizable bonfire with it.

Guess what? They probably made their way to the scanning team that I just talked about.

 

[freethinker]

Thanks, I honestly do not remember if it was spelled Scherlock or Sherlock (I guess likely the latter). I did not know the guy very well in person, but he was running the scanning team at the time and the scanning team was a major issue for us. So we kept bumping into scan problems and he was the go to guy. As such, he was likely the person who got the most negative "PR" as far as continental inv goes.
Probably my most frequent comment about him at the time was: "Fucker should be shot" (I'm not proud of that now btw). A lot of problems at the time and everyone's patience was low. I probably did not help the situation.

Frankly, it most likely wasn't even his fault. Scanning was just a mess and I think if I had that post its no way certain I would do better then he did.


Guess what? They probably made their way to the scanning team that I just talked about.

I'm not really sure what you mean by scanning team but I will assume you mean putting all tangible documents into a computer so thy would be easier to hide from the government.

The amount of documents at the Boston org was enormous. It must have taken a long time to scan and organize into a system where you could find what you needed.

You must have been at the CLO NY. They had a nasty attitude there when I had a visit. They essentially hated lower org staff, thought they were all incompetent, treasonous, do nothing loafers with no reason to live.

That's sort of attitude is more than likely the reason why you had so many problems.

When the foundation of your operation is deception, lies and espionage, it's only natural that dissention wll reign.

Didn't appreciate my time at CLO at all.

 

[Karakorum]

I'm not really sure what you mean by scanning team but I will assume you mean putting all tangible documents into a computer so thy would be easier to hide from the government.

Exactly what they do. They also make scans of documents (like passport and IDs) as the originals obviously cannot be all kept by the church In other things, they digitize KRs, ethics files etc - and that's just stuff I know about. They probably do similar stuff for other departments.

The amount of documents at the Boston org was enormous. It must have taken a long time to scan and organize into a system where you could find what you needed.

Scanning at WUS was VERY FAR from over when I left 10 years ago. It was done at a neck-braking pace often very shoddily and the poor quality of some scans reached legendary status among those who sadly had to work with these. Like me.
Again, I blame these guys much less now then I did back then. But when you absolutely needed data from a passport and all you had was a black rectangle on a slightly less black background... and the original paper copy was nowhere to be found... and the person who owned that passport has already defected... You know how it can be "shit rolls downhill".

You must have been at the CLO NY. They had a nasty attitude there when I had a visit. They essentially hated lower org staff, thought they were all incompetent, treasonous, do nothing loafers with no reason to live.

That's sort of attitude is more than likely the reason why you had so many problems.

When the foundation of your operation is deception, lies and espionage, it's only natural that dissention wll reign.

Didn't appreciate my time at CLO at all.

You are very close, just wrong CLO

Deception, lies and chaos was certainly what had happened. It was a weird existence with continental ethics, because if I had held that post just a year back, I'd be reporting to our "good ol' buzzing buddy" Marty Rathbun (I guess, as usual, I had more luck than brains). But he was already out, stuff was abolished but de facto it felt like it was a vacant post up there. Entirely contrary to admin tech, but Dave didn't care.
As for lower staff, I can't say I hated them (though there were some individuals I of course disliked with a passion). But the command intention was that we should not "fraternize" and this was even more true in Inv for the very simple reason that our purpose was to 'investigate' who is out ethics and why. Good old gestapo Inv.

You know how it is: "Work! work! work! work!", complete all the cases you have been assigned and they need to be done the day before yesterday. "There must be a victory!" so pay attention to small details, but don't dilly dally on the way. Don't be significant, don't be stupid, don't fraternize, don't lower morale, don't be out-PR, don't natter, don't smile, don't be too happy, but don't be depressed, don't be a negative Nancy, don't sleep too long, don't go crazy, don't be late with reports, don't be early with reports, don't go looking for other fish, don't engage in shouting matches with CMO...

And that's just the "don't". Wait till I tell you about the "do" part

But still, I would not trade ethics for qual or being a registrar and certainly NOT for anything to do with recruiting (been there, done that, hated every second).

 

[Oat Tea Ate]

Has anyone checked out the boston org lately?

 

[Operating Wog]

Does anyone know if Dale Sherlock is still on staff there?

Here he is at the Boston Org 50th Anniversary. Nils Hansen right bhind him. Heather Landrey center. Lots more here: Boston Ideal Org

 

[Type4_PTS]

Don't know of a Tony Sherlock, or Scherlock, but I know Dale has a brother and maybe that is him. I don't know.

If I remember correctly, Dale's brother was Phil.

 

[Reyne Mayer]

i just happened across the fact that the Boston org has moved to another 'temporary' space, now West of and somewhat closer to the city center (and not far from the building they own in Allston), 1105 Commonwealth Ave. at Brighton Ave., in a suite on the 2nd floor, with the staircase lobby under the brown awning at the center:

 

[Karakorum]

i just happened across the fact that the Boston org has moved to another 'temporary' space, now West of and somewhat closer to the city center (and not far from the building they own in Allston), 1105 Commonwealth Ave. at Brighton Ave., in a suite on the 2nd floor, with the staircase lobby under the brown awning at the center:

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Hahaha that sure doesn't look like bright spit-and-polish Ideal Org level of amazing MEST to me!

 

[Reyne Mayer]

Hahaha that sure doesn't look like bright spit-and-polish Ideal Org level of amazing MEST to me!

the interior finish doesn't look too bad, from pictures of the language school that occupied it previously, not repellant but not 'ideal':

 

[Karakorum]

the interior finish doesn't look too bad, from pictures of the language school that occupied it previously, not repellant but not 'ideal':

Yeah, was about to say that it looks like some sort of school or AA club

 

[Type4_PTS]

You must have been at the CLO NY. They had a nasty attitude there when I had a visit. They essentially hated lower org staff, thought they were all incompetent, treasonous, do nothing loafers with no reason to live.

I feel I was treated better at the CLO during the time I spent up there than I was treated at Boston Org, and they tried hard to recruit me on one occasion.

One time when I was up there I overheard Jon De Vries, who was CO CMO EUS at the time, screaming that all the Boston execs were criminals! Jon came into Scientology via Boston Org, not too long after I did.

 

[Karakorum]

One time when I was up there I overheard though Jon De'Vries, who was CO CMO EUS at the time, screaming that all the Boston execs were criminals! Jon came into Scientology via Boston Org, not too long after I did.

Did he actually... do anything about these execs? Or was he just shouting about with nothing happening?

I mean I know it is not like EUS had a real inv (not like it had a real CLO either... ), but still...