Between Lives Implants and Clams

Karen#1

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This recent promotion on Facebook brought up the subject of “Between Lives Implants,” one of Hubbard’s crazier concepts.

Their lecture is necessarily a regurgitation of Hubbard’s “technology” contained in his wonderfully bonkers book, History of Man. You know, the one that begins:

 

Karen#1

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Excerpt:

This is a cold-blooded and factual account of your last sixty trillion years.

The test of any knowledge is its usefulness. Does it make one happier or more able? By it and with it, can he better achieve his goals ?

This is useful knowledge. With it the blind again see, the lame walk, the ill recover, the insane become sane and the sane become saner. By its use the thousand abilities Man has
sought to recover become his once more.
 

lotus

Gone away from madness!
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This is useful knowledge. With it the blind again see, the lame walk, the ill recover, the insane become sane and the sane become insane, dwarfs beat the strongmen . By its use the thousand abilities Man has sought to recover become his once more.
blue =mine
 
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Helena Handbasket

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I absolutely believe in Between-Lives Implants. And that they are a bad thing, intended to keep us powerless and imprisioned here on Earth.

The way to avoid them is, when you die, you will sooner or later meet a being I call the "escorter" to lead you there. Do not follow them! Get as far away as possible.

One way to get away from them is to reincarnate, back on Earth, as quickly as possible, to get out of danger.

It may be difficult to think of that place as a bad place, because most of us have been told, all our lives, that it is a good place and that we should look forward to going there.

And it doesn't take "a few minutes" to go through the Between-Lives Implant. It takes about 6 weeks; although you might spend some additional time "up there" before or after the implant.

Helena
 

Karakorum

Ron is the source that will lead you to grief

"is it an overt to die?"

- If you are in the SO and had work to do? Then it is absolutely an overt. Only a DB would die on the job instead of saving the planet.
 

PirateAndBum

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Staff member
I absolutely believe in Between-Lives Implants. And that they are a bad thing, intended to keep us powerless and imprisioned here on Earth.

The way to avoid them is, when you die, you will sooner or later meet a being I call the "escorter" to lead you there. Do not follow them! Get as far away as possible.

One way to get away from them is to reincarnate, back on Earth, as quickly as possible, to get out of danger.

It may be difficult to think of that place as a bad place, because most of us have been told, all our lives, that it is a good place and that we should look forward to going there.

And it doesn't take "a few minutes" to go through the Between-Lives Implant. It takes about 6 weeks; although you might spend some additional time "up there" before or after the implant.

Helena
Why do you believe in between life implants?
 

Pepin

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I absolutely believe in Between-Lives Implants. And that they are a bad thing, intended to keep us powerless and imprisioned here on Earth.

The way to avoid them is, when you die, you will sooner or later meet a being I call the "escorter" to lead you there. Do not follow them! Get as far away as possible.

One way to get away from them is to reincarnate, back on Earth, as quickly as possible, to get out of danger.

It may be difficult to think of that place as a bad place, because most of us have been told, all our lives, that it is a good place and that we should look forward to going there.

And it doesn't take "a few minutes" to go through the Between-Lives Implant. It takes about 6 weeks; although you might spend some additional time "up there" before or after the implant.

Helena
eeeek The belief that one may escape danger by picking up another body is part of the implant.
If one fears a being (or conglomerate of beings) then one empowers said being(s)
I think it's better to not give power away
 

Pepin

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Why do you believe in between life implants?
I saw someone, part of my "Fan club" I tried to wake up, leave and go a long way away to get an implant and come back. This is not between lives, very much this lifetime. This guy really didn't want to wake up.
 

mimsey borogrove

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"is it an overt to die?"
- If you are in the SO and had work to do? Then it is absolutely an overt. Only a DB would die on the job instead of saving the planet.
My friend Bruce Gains had a heart attack and walked across the street into Kaiser to get medical help. Gretchen Schwartz, a dear friend of mine, who ran the Flag Office next to AOLA died while on post. As I recall they didn't give her much of a service - I think my friend Ruthie Wiseman got a bigger one. These people literally gave their lives to the church.

Mimsey
 

pineapple

能说的名字不真的名字
Actually, I don't, but the last time I was between lives I did.

Helena :)
Would it be fair to say you believe between-lives implants exist because you remember having gone through them before?
 

Helena Handbasket

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Would it be fair to say you believe between-lives implants exist because you remember having gone through them before?
Actually, I don't remember going through the between-lives-implant. I did take only 5 days to come back last time, and the implant takes longer than that, so it wasn't possible.

At the end of the implant is a command to forget being implanted.

One thing it does is make you stupid. So if you look around, all the smart people are the ones who DID NOT go through the implant. (Smart because their existing knowledge wasn't trashed and smart because they avoided it in the first place!)

Nobody is FORCED to go through the implant. Just avoid the "escorter" and ignore all the propaganda surrounding the subject.

My opinion on the subject was formed by comparing various sources of information and inductive reasoning.

Helena
 

pineapple

能说的名字不真的名字
Actually, I don't remember going through the between-lives-implant. I did take only 5 days to come back last time, and the implant takes longer than that, so it wasn't possible.

At the end of the implant is a command to forget being implanted.

One thing it does is make you stupid. So if you look around, all the smart people are the ones who DID NOT go through the implant. (Smart because their existing knowledge wasn't trashed and smart because they avoided it in the first place!)

Nobody is FORCED to go through the implant. Just avoid the "escorter" and ignore all the propaganda surrounding the subject.

My opinion on the subject was formed by comparing various sources of information and inductive reasoning.

Helena
Well, you say it took only 5 days to come back last time, so obviously you remember something, eh?
 

Pepin

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Well, you say it took only 5 days to come back last time, so obviously you remember something, eh?
Since spirits (thetans) are outside of time, there isn't really a concept of days, unless we keep our attention on something in time.
When I woke someone up from the long sleep, he went somewhere and I wondered, where is he going. He was only gone for what would be like a few minutes, and then he came back and went right back to sleep believing he's my stomach.
Weird stuff.
 

Helena Handbasket

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Well, you say it took only 5 days to come back last time, so obviously you remember something, eh?
What I remember is I died on January 7 and then born on January 12. I do remember that I grabbed this body one day before birth. I remember nothing else.

Helena

P.S. There is an LRH tape called Between Lives Implants (as well as an altered version that contradicts the original). This was an important source of information for me.
 

pineapple

能说的名字不真的名字
What I remember is I died on January 7 and then born on January 12. I do remember that I grabbed this body one day before birth. I remember nothing else.

Helena

P.S. There is an LRH tape called Between Lives Implants (as well as an altered version that contradicts the original). This was an important source of information for me.
You must be aware that many of Hubbard's claims aren't true. There never were any clears like the ones he described in DMSMH, and there's no evidence that the 273 (?) cases he claimed to have treated in DMSMH ever existed. His "research" was just made up.

What makes you think that his assertions about past lives are any better? Why would he suddenly decide to start telling the truth?
 

Helena Handbasket

Well-known member
You must be aware that many of Hubbard's claims aren't true. There never were any clears like the ones he described in DMSMH, and there's no evidence that the 273 (?) cases he claimed to have treated in DMSMH ever existed. His "research" was just made up.

What makes you think that his assertions about past lives are any better? Why would he suddenly decide to start telling the truth?
I may not remember the between-lives area, but I do remember 6 of my previous lifetimes -- the 5 most recent ones and 1 from about 2000 years ago. Let me just leave it at that -- it's not important to me if I'm believed or not.

Helena
 
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